Equifax wiped out his credit score — and a little-known policy means he can't get it back
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Equifax refused to restore his credit score or explain why it dropped to zero, until Go Public started asking questions.
Only then did the company point to its little-known policy: If a credit file sits inactive, the consumer may be labelled “unscoreable” and their score reset to zero. Tregear says the last time he checked, before it disappeared, his score was around a more respectable 700.
Go Public has since found a major flaw in consumer protection rules — that there are no laws or oversight on how credit scores are calculated, leaving credit bureaus to do what they want.
Consumer advocate Geoff White says that gives credit bureaus too much power, with no transparency.
It is kinda funny how often people will give shit to China for it’s social credit score but we’re not too fucking far off from it here in the west. When you can’t even get housing because of a credit score… it’s kind of a fuckin’ problem.
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It is kinda funny how often people will give shit to China for it’s social credit score but we’re not too fucking far off from it here in the west. When you can’t even get housing because of a credit score… it’s kind of a fuckin’ problem.
Don’t forget the even more nebulous and secretive insurance scores that are even tied in to data brokers!
On the other hand, the Chinese “social credit” is mostly western fabulation. And what little implementation of that actually does exists is actually mostly used to track and punish corporations and governmental bodies… So there’s that.
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Equifax refused to restore his credit score or explain why it dropped to zero, until Go Public started asking questions.
Only then did the company point to its little-known policy: If a credit file sits inactive, the consumer may be labelled “unscoreable” and their score reset to zero. Tregear says the last time he checked, before it disappeared, his score was around a more respectable 700.
Go Public has since found a major flaw in consumer protection rules — that there are no laws or oversight on how credit scores are calculated, leaving credit bureaus to do what they want.
Consumer advocate Geoff White says that gives credit bureaus too much power, with no transparency.
I think it is hilarious that people aren’t more scared of where this path inveitably leads and has already lead, I passed the point of being scared long ago and now all I have left is to laugh.
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It is kinda funny how often people will give shit to China for it’s social credit score but we’re not too fucking far off from it here in the west. When you can’t even get housing because of a credit score… it’s kind of a fuckin’ problem.
Except ours is based on our ability to repay debt. Which is fucked.
Not saying China’s is any better, but at least you’re rated on your actions and words. Not some capitalist view of a person’s worth.
Both are fucked.
Anyway, credit scores should be abolished.
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Equifax refused to restore his credit score or explain why it dropped to zero, until Go Public started asking questions.
Only then did the company point to its little-known policy: If a credit file sits inactive, the consumer may be labelled “unscoreable” and their score reset to zero. Tregear says the last time he checked, before it disappeared, his score was around a more respectable 700.
Go Public has since found a major flaw in consumer protection rules — that there are no laws or oversight on how credit scores are calculated, leaving credit bureaus to do what they want.
Consumer advocate Geoff White says that gives credit bureaus too much power, with no transparency.
How can this post created in the ‘Canada’ community be cross posted into the ‘Canada’ community? Somehow the same post got ‘created’ twice in the same community.
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How can this post created in the ‘Canada’ community be cross posted into the ‘Canada’ community? Somehow the same post got ‘created’ twice in the same community.
The “crosspost” label is more of a flag that there is another post with the same URL somewhere. If I posted the same article in a community multiple times, it would have multiple “crosspost” labels for that community. I agree that this could be done in a better way
I assume there was a bug or loading issue where the user posted this post twice. Maybe their app thought it didn’t go through the first time and tried posting it again.
Since there is discussion on both posts, I might leave them both?
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Equifax refused to restore his credit score or explain why it dropped to zero, until Go Public started asking questions.
Only then did the company point to its little-known policy: If a credit file sits inactive, the consumer may be labelled “unscoreable” and their score reset to zero. Tregear says the last time he checked, before it disappeared, his score was around a more respectable 700.
Go Public has since found a major flaw in consumer protection rules — that there are no laws or oversight on how credit scores are calculated, leaving credit bureaus to do what they want.
Consumer advocate Geoff White says that gives credit bureaus too much power, with no transparency.
Keeping people in perennial debt: Those who won’t work for the carrot get the stick.
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Don’t forget the even more nebulous and secretive insurance scores that are even tied in to data brokers!
On the other hand, the Chinese “social credit” is mostly western fabulation. And what little implementation of that actually does exists is actually mostly used to track and punish corporations and governmental bodies… So there’s that.
Ah, so eastern social credit is the public(ish) policing private business. And that is very bad – by which of course I mean it’s targeting the people who most manipulate western public opinion.
But our western financial credit is private business policing the general public. “This is normal.”
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The “crosspost” label is more of a flag that there is another post with the same URL somewhere. If I posted the same article in a community multiple times, it would have multiple “crosspost” labels for that community. I agree that this could be done in a better way
I assume there was a bug or loading issue where the user posted this post twice. Maybe their app thought it didn’t go through the first time and tried posting it again.
Since there is discussion on both posts, I might leave them both?
I think I might have an explanation. Lemmy seems to have an issue with CBC articles for some reason. When I post them, it doesn’t show that it’s “posted” but “hangs” in the posting page. So I clicked it to submit again. It doesn’t happen with any other site. Just CBC.
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Equifax refused to restore his credit score or explain why it dropped to zero, until Go Public started asking questions.
Only then did the company point to its little-known policy: If a credit file sits inactive, the consumer may be labelled “unscoreable” and their score reset to zero. Tregear says the last time he checked, before it disappeared, his score was around a more respectable 700.
Go Public has since found a major flaw in consumer protection rules — that there are no laws or oversight on how credit scores are calculated, leaving credit bureaus to do what they want.
Consumer advocate Geoff White says that gives credit bureaus too much power, with no transparency.
This happened to me too. I’m actually relieved because my credit score was in the shitter. Now I’m back to a clean slate.
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This happened to me too. I’m actually relieved because my credit score was in the shitter. Now I’m back to a clean slate.
How did you get it back?
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The “crosspost” label is more of a flag that there is another post with the same URL somewhere. If I posted the same article in a community multiple times, it would have multiple “crosspost” labels for that community. I agree that this could be done in a better way
I assume there was a bug or loading issue where the user posted this post twice. Maybe their app thought it didn’t go through the first time and tried posting it again.
Since there is discussion on both posts, I might leave them both?
The discussion in both could get confusing. Someone may look in the wrong post for a follow-up. Any way the two posts could get combined, since they are both by the same author? Or maybe warn the posters in one tat it is going to be deleted, and refer them to the second post?
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How did you get it back?
By doing the same thing the person in the article did: not using my credit. I’m also currently “unscoreable”. As far as I’m concerned, no credit score is better than a bad one, so I’ll take it.
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Except ours is based on our ability to repay debt. Which is fucked.
Not saying China’s is any better, but at least you’re rated on your actions and words. Not some capitalist view of a person’s worth.
Both are fucked.
Anyway, credit scores should be abolished.
Except ours is based on our ability to repay debt. Which is fucked.
How so? It seems to be exactly what lenders want to know before lending. Are you judging a system by its exceptions?
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Except ours is based on our ability to repay debt. Which is fucked.
How so? It seems to be exactly what lenders want to know before lending. Are you judging a system by its exceptions?
It’s moreso a rating of how much potential cash they can extract from you over a lifetime in the form of interest.
That’s why, if you always pay off your debt balance before interest accrues, it actually lowers your score.
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Equifax refused to restore his credit score or explain why it dropped to zero, until Go Public started asking questions.
Only then did the company point to its little-known policy: If a credit file sits inactive, the consumer may be labelled “unscoreable” and their score reset to zero. Tregear says the last time he checked, before it disappeared, his score was around a more respectable 700.
Go Public has since found a major flaw in consumer protection rules — that there are no laws or oversight on how credit scores are calculated, leaving credit bureaus to do what they want.
Consumer advocate Geoff White says that gives credit bureaus too much power, with no transparency.
there are no laws or oversight on how credit scores are calculated, leaving credit bureaus to do what they want.
Gee whiz, I’m sure these companies that carry so much responsibility will take that responsibility with pride and do their absolute best on giving honest and accurate data, and protect that data in the best way possible right? Like for example, they wouldn’t use some ex music teacher to become CTO which would lead to the biggest loss of US customer data (including social security numbers), ever, right?
RIGHT?
Fuck equifax, literally everybody working at that company should be jailed.
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Except ours is based on our ability to repay debt. Which is fucked.
Not saying China’s is any better, but at least you’re rated on your actions and words. Not some capitalist view of a person’s worth.
Both are fucked.
Anyway, credit scores should be abolished.
That’s an interesting concept but standards are different, so what does a social score mean anyway? For example, I value high eq/empathy above all. Lacking that but being a billionaire won’t increase my score toward you even though you might be rated high because you own a house, car, business etc.
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Equifax refused to restore his credit score or explain why it dropped to zero, until Go Public started asking questions.
Only then did the company point to its little-known policy: If a credit file sits inactive, the consumer may be labelled “unscoreable” and their score reset to zero. Tregear says the last time he checked, before it disappeared, his score was around a more respectable 700.
Go Public has since found a major flaw in consumer protection rules — that there are no laws or oversight on how credit scores are calculated, leaving credit bureaus to do what they want.
Consumer advocate Geoff White says that gives credit bureaus too much power, with no transparency.
I’m in the US but had a similar thing happen to me when I was first getting credit and had no history. I figured it would be a safe bet to apply for a card with my bank at the time, and they denied me citing my credit score: 0. At the time I just laughed and applied for another card elsewhere, who did actually accept me. After a few months I checked and saw I was assigned a real score somewhere in the low 700s.
I’d understand dropping a score after 10 years without credit, but the 2 in this case is very low.
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Except ours is based on our ability to repay debt. Which is fucked.
How so? It seems to be exactly what lenders want to know before lending. Are you judging a system by its exceptions?
You know what’s funny? Credit scores are a fairly new thing. If you wanted to rent an apartment, all you needed were good references. You couldn’t be denied based off some obscure score that a couple of companies have a monopoly over and can wreck your whole life if THEY mess up with no chance of recovering.
In a world where everything works on debt now, these companies have too much power over people.
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That’s an interesting concept but standards are different, so what does a social score mean anyway? For example, I value high eq/empathy above all. Lacking that but being a billionaire won’t increase my score toward you even though you might be rated high because you own a house, car, business etc.
Well in case of China, it’s how good they view you as a citizen. And that’s based on their own evaluation templates. And it’s probably based on how early you get to your job and how well you perform for glorious China.