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'The old order is not coming back,' Carney says in provocative speech at Davos

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  • BurgerBaronB BurgerBaron

    Hopefully Macron hears this, given the leaked texts to Trump today.

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    darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    The texts:

    “My friend, We are totally in line on Syria. We can do great things on Iran. I do not understand what you are doing on Greenland."

    “Let us try to build great things, i can set up a g7 meeting after Davos in Paris on thursday afternoon. I can invite the ukrainians, the danish, the syrians and the russians in the margins. let us have a dinner together in Paris together on thursday before you go back to the us. Emmanuel.”

    The assumption is that he leaked them in response to an earlier quote from Macron:

    “We do prefer respect to bullies. And we do prefer rule of law to brutality.”

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    • T twinnie@feddit.uk

      Is it possible Canada could join the EU? I’d love it if all America’s former allies just formed a “cool club” and started isolating the US.

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      worstdriver@lemmy.world
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      They would likely hold out a chair for us if we asked.

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      • BurgerBaronB BurgerBaron

        Hopefully Macron hears this, given the leaked texts to Trump today.

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        Avid Amoeba
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        What the actual fuck, I had to check and:

        Also NATO’s sec:

        Assuming this is real, is this shit commonplace or are these bootlickers outliers?

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          'The old order is not coming back,' Carney says in provocative speech at Davos | CBC News

          Prime Minister Mark Carney delivered a frank assessment of how he views the world in a provocative speech in Davos, Switzerland, on Tuesday, where he said the longstanding U.S.-led, rules-based international order is over and middle powers like Canada must pivot to avoid falling prey to further "coercion" from powerful actors.

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          jhex@lemmy.world
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          Carney: “The old order is not coming back” = provocative

          Trump: “I shit on the world and will take over a territory because I didn’t get a shiny medal” = Trump discusses international policy

          FUCK THE MAINSTREAM PRESS

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            jhex@lemmy.world
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            I think the border security bill was an initial attempt to placate the Orange Turd… I completely disagree with it anyway, but I am not sure it is part of what Carney would have done under different circumstances

            So far I am not finding myself agreeing with Carney too much but this speech was solid and some of the deals and partnerships coming up in the news have been pretty positive (at least with the info available)… so there is hope?

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              worstdriver@lemmy.world
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              Can you imagine how it would be if PP had won?

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                Prime Minister Mark Carney delivered a frank assessment of how he views the world in a provocative speech in Davos, Switzerland, on Tuesday, where he said the longstanding U.S.-led, rules-based international order is over and middle powers like Canada must pivot to avoid falling prey to further "coercion" from powerful actors.

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                sik0fewl
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                Using words just big enough that Trump won’t understand what he’s saying. Smart.

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                  Is it possible Canada could join the EU? I’d love it if all America’s former allies just formed a “cool club” and started isolating the US.

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                  snoons@lemmy.ca
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                  IIRC this question was seriously asked by Carney a little while back, and we can in all but name. I don’t think there will ever be a Canadian minister in the European Council but we could form trade networks that are basically the same as European nations with the caveat that there is the Atlantic ocean separating us.

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                  • Avid AmoebaA Avid Amoeba

                    What the actual fuck, I had to check and:

                    Also NATO’s sec:

                    Assuming this is real, is this shit commonplace or are these bootlickers outliers?

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                    Yeather
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                    I doubt these are actually text messages sent to him from Macron, but possibly messages passed from Macron to a Trump lacky and then reinterpreted in a way Trump can read. No clue about SecGen.

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                    • Avid AmoebaA Avid Amoeba

                      What the actual fuck, I had to check and:

                      Also NATO’s sec:

                      Assuming this is real, is this shit commonplace or are these bootlickers outliers?

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                      paraphrand
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                      There’s no way Trump understands screenshots. So at minimum, if true, the posting of these are a collaboration with a handler.

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                        Can you imagine how it would be if PP had won?

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                        lemonysplit@lemmy.ca
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                        Dont have to imagine, just wait till next election. Pretty sure it’s only gunna get worse from here and it was too close for comfort this time.

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                          Prime Minister Mark Carney delivered a frank assessment of how he views the world in a provocative speech in Davos, Switzerland, on Tuesday, where he said the longstanding U.S.-led, rules-based international order is over and middle powers like Canada must pivot to avoid falling prey to further "coercion" from powerful actors.

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                          markwandering@lemmy.ca
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                          Is Carney perfect? No. Is he the best PM we have had, and the perfect man for this situation? Yes.

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                            Using words just big enough that Trump won’t understand what he’s saying. Smart.

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                            StinkyFingerItchyBum
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                            Reminds me of a Trudeau speech just before he left. He spoke to Canadians and used typical 6th grade english politicians use when adressing very large audiences. Then he adressed Trump directly, looked right into the camera and immediately switched to mono syllabic caveman speech. I swear you could even see a suppressed smirk peek through. I laughed so hard and long I couldn’t hear what he actually said to him.

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                            • M markwandering@lemmy.ca

                              Is Carney perfect? No. Is he the best PM we have had, and the perfect man for this situation? Yes.

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                              fireretardant@lemmy.world
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                              I watched a few interviews with Carney throughout the election to get an idea of who he is and the policies he might support. One detail that really stuck out to me is he was a goaltender when he played hockey. Canada has a big mean offensive oaf taking shots at it, and Canada elects a goalie as a response.

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                                fireretardant@lemmy.world
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                                Carney’s reliance on fossil fuels does stick out as somewhat against his own book, Values. This is all speculation, but my theory for the reliance on fossil fuels is that it has a history of econimcally strengthening nations (at least if we ignore pollution), and has historically proven to be a valuable and desired resource globally and domestically. Given he is navigating the biggest economic shift Canada has seen in decades, fossil fuels look like a safe, but not neccesarily the right choice.

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                                  glide@lemmy.ca
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                                  Okay, 100% with you on his love for fossil fuels and military spending, but what specifically has he done to be deserving of calling him out of “authoritarian bullshit”?

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                                  • F fireretardant@lemmy.world

                                    Carney’s reliance on fossil fuels does stick out as somewhat against his own book, Values. This is all speculation, but my theory for the reliance on fossil fuels is that it has a history of econimcally strengthening nations (at least if we ignore pollution), and has historically proven to be a valuable and desired resource globally and domestically. Given he is navigating the biggest economic shift Canada has seen in decades, fossil fuels look like a safe, but not neccesarily the right choice.

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                                    kichae@lemmy.ca
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                                    Yes, exactly. Actions speak louder than words, of course, and his actions around fossil fuels feel very counter to his published words, but he has also said that we are at economic war now, and war time decisions need to be much more pragmatic than peace time ones.

                                    He said it all today: Countries that cannot feed themselves, fuel themselves, or defend themselves are now supremely vulnerable. We can feed ourselves, and we can fuel ourselves, and we can fuel and feed others. We need to offer that so that they will defend us, as we build up the means to defend ourselves.

                                    Shaking off being a US vassal state is going to get a little messy.

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                                      Okay, 100% with you on his love for fossil fuels and military spending, but what specifically has he done to be deserving of calling him out of “authoritarian bullshit”?

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                                      kbal
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                                      Read a few more words there and find out. He didn’t write that legislation, but he approved of it, has had the power to stop it all along, and has not renounced it.

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                                      • L lemonysplit@lemmy.ca

                                        Dont have to imagine, just wait till next election. Pretty sure it’s only gunna get worse from here and it was too close for comfort this time.

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                                        lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca
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                                        Doubt timbit trump will even be around next federal election.

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                                          Is it possible Canada could join the EU? I’d love it if all America’s former allies just formed a “cool club” and started isolating the US.

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                                          windex007@lemmy.world
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                                          Little bit of trivia is that Canada shares a land border with the EU.

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