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  3. Stanford Institute report on the economic impact of Brexit:'nhttps://siepr.stanford.edu/publications/working-paper/economic-impact-brexit'nIt reduced UK GDP by 8%, investment by 18%, employment by 4%, and productivity by 4%.

Stanford Institute report on the economic impact of Brexit:'nhttps://siepr.stanford.edu/publications/working-paper/economic-impact-brexit'nIt reduced UK GDP by 8%, investment by 18%, employment by 4%, and productivity by 4%.

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  • Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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    Stanford Institute report on the economic impact of Brexit:

    https://siepr.stanford.edu/publications/working-paper/economic-impact-brexit

    It reduced UK GDP by 8%, investment by 18%, employment by 4%, and productivity by 4%. Also reduced Treasury tax revenue by £40-80Bn/year.

    (Note that this is NOT a UK think tank but a US one so more likely to be ideologically in favour of Brexit as a starting point.)

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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      Stanford Institute report on the economic impact of Brexit:

      https://siepr.stanford.edu/publications/working-paper/economic-impact-brexit

      It reduced UK GDP by 8%, investment by 18%, employment by 4%, and productivity by 4%. Also reduced Treasury tax revenue by £40-80Bn/year.

      (Note that this is NOT a UK think tank but a US one so more likely to be ideologically in favour of Brexit as a starting point.)

      Su_GS This user is from outside of this forum
      Su_GS This user is from outside of this forum
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      @cstross
      That is a serious set of numbers there: Brexit “reduced UK GDP by 8%, investment by 18%, employment by 4%, and productivity by 4%. Also reduced Treasury tax revenue by £40-80Bn/year.” And caused a return to stunting in children. 😮

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        @cstross
        That is a serious set of numbers there: Brexit “reduced UK GDP by 8%, investment by 18%, employment by 4%, and productivity by 4%. Also reduced Treasury tax revenue by £40-80Bn/year.” And caused a return to stunting in children. 😮

        millennial falconF This user is from outside of this forum
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        @Su_G @cstross URGENT reapplication to EU is required by Britain for child health.

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        • millennial falconF millennial falcon

          @Su_G @cstross URGENT reapplication to EU is required by Britain for child health.

          Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
          Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          @falcennial @Su_G @cstross

          But does the EU really _want_ the UK back any time soon?

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          • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

            @falcennial @Su_G @cstross

            But does the EU really _want_ the UK back any time soon?

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            @juergen_hubert
            Probably not, given that UK is such a basket case & would have to be propped up for decades. 😐

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            • Su_GS Su_G

              @juergen_hubert
              Probably not, given that UK is such a basket case & would have to be propped up for decades. 😐

              Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              @Su_G

              The EU has accepted a fair number of basket cases into their fold - that's not the problem.

              But they do want actual _commitment_ to EU membership, and the UK has demonstrated that they lack this. Even if they were to apply, they would be regarded like a cat that can't decide whether to go outside or not - only _far_ less charming.

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                @Su_G

                The EU has accepted a fair number of basket cases into their fold - that's not the problem.

                But they do want actual _commitment_ to EU membership, and the UK has demonstrated that they lack this. Even if they were to apply, they would be regarded like a cat that can't decide whether to go outside or not - only _far_ less charming.

                Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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                @juergen_hubert @Su_G I suspect an independent Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland would get nodded through fairly rapidly. It's England that's the problem child.

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                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                  @juergen_hubert @Su_G I suspect an independent Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland would get nodded through fairly rapidly. It's England that's the problem child.

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                  @cstross @Su_G

                  That is true. However, how to get independent is a problem for Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland to solve - while there would be a lot of Schadenfreude in European capitals at such a tien of events, due to internal politics the EU cannot be seen as too supportive of independence movements.

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                  • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

                    @cstross @Su_G

                    That is true. However, how to get independent is a problem for Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland to solve - while there would be a lot of Schadenfreude in European capitals at such a tien of events, due to internal politics the EU cannot be seen as too supportive of independence movements.

                    Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @juergen_hubert @Su_G Yes, that's glaringly clear. I suspect any rupture will occur if and when the UK elects a Reform UK government (who are obnoxious English nationalist far-rightists who advocate abolishing the devolved parliaments).

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