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'Knowing Steam players are hoarders explains why you give Valve that 30%,' analyst tells devs: 'You get access to a bunch of drunken sailors who spend money irresponsibly'

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  • B bpalmerau@aussie.zone

    In defense of the ‘drunken sailors’ of Steam, many of the games they’ve bought are likely to still be playable for a long time, some were bought in half-yearly sales, and some were part of ‘bundles’ that were bought for a different game. The 30% also pays for the Content Delivery Network, marketing, a forum and sometimes moderation, and a genuine customer feedback mechanism. Who wouldn’t want to be part of an un-enshittified system? Fanboy? You bet. I’m not saying they can do no wrong, but they’re doing a lot right.

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    atomicpoet@lemmy.world
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    Exactly, every game I’ve ever bought is still accessible.

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    • B bpalmerau@aussie.zone

      In defense of the ‘drunken sailors’ of Steam, many of the games they’ve bought are likely to still be playable for a long time, some were bought in half-yearly sales, and some were part of ‘bundles’ that were bought for a different game. The 30% also pays for the Content Delivery Network, marketing, a forum and sometimes moderation, and a genuine customer feedback mechanism. Who wouldn’t want to be part of an un-enshittified system? Fanboy? You bet. I’m not saying they can do no wrong, but they’re doing a lot right.

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      natryamar
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      buying a game for 90% off sure sounds responsible to me lol

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        Lemminary
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        I mean, where is the lie? Gimme cheap games, I’ll “buy” all of them!

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          atomicpoet@lemmy.world
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          When I first got a Steam account, my original plan was to buy every game released on it. But now that’s impossible.

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          • A atomicpoet@lemmy.world

            When I first got a Steam account, my original plan was to buy every game released on it. But now that’s impossible.

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            Nate
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            Well, not with that attitude!

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                thethrilloftime@lemmy.ml
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                Didn’t have to call out my 20+yo steam account

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                    buying a game for 90% off sure sounds responsible to me lol

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                    epyon22@programming.dev
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                    I’ve spent ~$1200 and have 227 games to show for it. Plus now works on almost any computer and cloud saves. Steam offers so much gonna be hard to unseat them.

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                      bpalmerau@aussie.zone
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                      My thoughts exactly 🙂

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                        buying a game for 90% off sure sounds responsible to me lol

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                        TheLowestStone
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                        Yup. I bought The Forest for $2 a year ago and I’m sure I’ll play it eventually.

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                        • B bpalmerau@aussie.zone

                          In defense of the ‘drunken sailors’ of Steam, many of the games they’ve bought are likely to still be playable for a long time, some were bought in half-yearly sales, and some were part of ‘bundles’ that were bought for a different game. The 30% also pays for the Content Delivery Network, marketing, a forum and sometimes moderation, and a genuine customer feedback mechanism. Who wouldn’t want to be part of an un-enshittified system? Fanboy? You bet. I’m not saying they can do no wrong, but they’re doing a lot right.

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                          state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de
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                          If gaben decides tomorrow to shut it all down, everything is gone. They might have a lot of good will based on past behavior, but in the end it’s still a company and you have zero control over what they do. You don’t actually own any of those games.

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                            If gaben decides tomorrow to shut it all down, everything is gone. They might have a lot of good will based on past behavior, but in the end it’s still a company and you have zero control over what they do. You don’t actually own any of those games.

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                            Rentlar
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                            Technically, uh no. Many of the games I haven’t loaded onto my PC would no longer be accessible, correct. But I have a copy of Goldberg emulator, in case Valve doesn’t hold up their end of the bargain.

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                              phoenix3875@lemmy.world
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                              It’s like gym membership or books. If everyone with gym membership would go regularly, the business won’t be profitable. Or if everyone only buys a new book after they finish what they have bought, the publishing industry would be in shambles.

                              These businesses play the probability game. They are actually just insurance by a different name.

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                                So, you’re saying that Steam games are the stuffed animals that’re culturally acceptable for adults to display openly.

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                                  Technically, uh no. Many of the games I haven’t loaded onto my PC would no longer be accessible, correct. But I have a copy of Goldberg emulator, in case Valve doesn’t hold up their end of the bargain.

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                                  state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de
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                                  Then technically I am correct? If Valve just shuts down, it’s all gone. You might find a workaround for some of the stuff you happen to have downloaded right now, but in general, everything you “bought” is gone.

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                                    Jo Miran
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                                    You best be glad these sailors are drunk and laying about on their hoard. Before Steam, those sailors were pirates. Do not tempt them to set sail again.

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                                      Obinice
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                                      I wondered which studio would be bold enough to do blatantly insult an entire marketplace of potential customers, but it’s just some guy.

                                      Chris Zukowski.

                                      I am a game marketing consultant and strategist. I have helped Games-as-a-Service companies, indie publishers, and small to single-person teams understand their audience and communicate with them in a more personal way.

                                      Funny way to communicate with your clients audience mate, calling us all “a bunch of drunken sailors”…

                                      I specialize in optimizing your marketing for the Steam algorithm

                                      Ah, so you’re part of the reason nothing has a soul any more. Got it.

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                                        geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                        I have bought games on steam that I already owned and played on other platforms, just because I wanted to support the dev and have a copy on a reliable platform. But with recent developements I do wonder more and more how long it will stay reliable.

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                                          I have bought games on steam that I already owned and played on other platforms, just because I wanted to support the dev and have a copy on a reliable platform. But with recent developements I do wonder more and more how long it will stay reliable.

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                                          What recent developments?

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