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FBI says it's now seized "multiple" ROM piracy sites, claims downloads resulted in $170m losses in just three months

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      Losses from lost N64 cartridge sales?

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        Good old ”download equals a sale” rhetoric still doing a lot of work in these headlines. It’s been decades.

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          It also claimed these websites had seen cumulative downloads of 3.2m in just three months this year - from 28th February and 28th May - resulting “in an estimated loss of $170m”.

          In other words:

          • They assumed that every download was by someone who would otherwise have paid over 53 USD for it, which by itself is an absurd delusion.
          • They described imaginary money that they never had in the first place as “losses”, which is a plain lie. You can’t lose something that you never had.

          Given that both these blatant falsehoods match the propaganda that big media parasite corporations started pushing a few decades ago, it seems pretty clear who the taxpayer-funded FBI is working for.

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            Once more for those in the back.

            You.

            Will.

            Not.

            Stop.

            Piracy.

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            • W who

              It also claimed these websites had seen cumulative downloads of 3.2m in just three months this year - from 28th February and 28th May - resulting “in an estimated loss of $170m”.

              In other words:

              • They assumed that every download was by someone who would otherwise have paid over 53 USD for it, which by itself is an absurd delusion.
              • They described imaginary money that they never had in the first place as “losses”, which is a plain lie. You can’t lose something that you never had.

              Given that both these blatant falsehoods match the propaganda that big media parasite corporations started pushing a few decades ago, it seems pretty clear who the taxpayer-funded FBI is working for.

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              pimento64@sopuli.xyz
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              If that’s the way it works I’m going to set up bots to pirate every Mario game over and over till Nintendo goes bankrupt and I can buy it for pennies on the dollar.

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              • windowsphoneguy@feddit.orgW windowsphoneguy@feddit.org

                Losses from lost N64 cartridge sales?

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                fwiw, modchips for the Switch are commonplace and while I haven’t been on any of the listed sites there are plenty with similar sounding names that offer Switch games for download.

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                  Do they only target torrent sites or something? Because there’s places that have been around for decades that are still up and fine.

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                    Do they only target torrent sites or something? Because there’s places that have been around for decades that are still up and fine.

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                    kyrgizion@lemmy.world
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                    TPB is basically immortal. Any instance taken down can be back up in minutes. It’s a game of whack-a-mole you can never win.

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                      rageagainsttherich@lemmy.world
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                      169,999,930. I was never gonna buy that zelda game anyways. So no money was lost.

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                      • W who

                        It also claimed these websites had seen cumulative downloads of 3.2m in just three months this year - from 28th February and 28th May - resulting “in an estimated loss of $170m”.

                        In other words:

                        • They assumed that every download was by someone who would otherwise have paid over 53 USD for it, which by itself is an absurd delusion.
                        • They described imaginary money that they never had in the first place as “losses”, which is a plain lie. You can’t lose something that you never had.

                        Given that both these blatant falsehoods match the propaganda that big media parasite corporations started pushing a few decades ago, it seems pretty clear who the taxpayer-funded FBI is working for.

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                        n0t_5ure@lemmy.world
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                        Reminds me of the math used by cops when they seize drugs to come up with an absurd amount of money to make it look like they’re having an impact on the never-ending war on drugs.

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                        • pimento64@sopuli.xyzP pimento64@sopuli.xyz

                          If that’s the way it works I’m going to set up bots to pirate every Mario game over and over till Nintendo goes bankrupt and I can buy it for pennies on the dollar.

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                            burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world
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                            the FBI acting like when you were home alone all day and you did jack shit, but your hear your mom pull in the driveway and remember the chores she asked you to do, so you set the trash can on fire to make it look like youre doing something

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                            • T TachyonTele

                              Do they only target torrent sites or something? Because there’s places that have been around for decades that are still up and fine.

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                              TragicNotCute
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                              No. The one they are talking about seizing most recently served torrents, but also had direct file listings to ROMs.

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                              • N n0t_5ure@lemmy.world

                                Reminds me of the math used by cops when they seize drugs to come up with an absurd amount of money to make it look like they’re having an impact on the never-ending war on drugs.

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                                emeralddawn45@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                So we’ve got a kilo of cocaine, but thats gonna be cut to 4 or 5 times its weight probably, so let’s call that 5kg. Then lets assume each of those 1000 grams is gonna be broken down into 50 20mg single doses, and lets say those addicts are gonna pay 20 bucks for a single dose. Thats $1000 per gram, time 5kg, we’ve got ourselves a nice 5million dollar bust here. Call the papers and print it.

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                                • E emeralddawn45@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                  So we’ve got a kilo of cocaine, but thats gonna be cut to 4 or 5 times its weight probably, so let’s call that 5kg. Then lets assume each of those 1000 grams is gonna be broken down into 50 20mg single doses, and lets say those addicts are gonna pay 20 bucks for a single dose. Thats $1000 per gram, time 5kg, we’ve got ourselves a nice 5million dollar bust here. Call the papers and print it.

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                                  pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                  Don’t forget the include the weight of the equipment and other supplies. In reality it was 500g of cocaine and the weight of the suitcase and shoes that were adjacent.

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                                    What losses? Why do these people assume that pirates were ever going to purchase the goods they pirated?

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                                    • pimento64@sopuli.xyzP pimento64@sopuli.xyz

                                      If that’s the way it works I’m going to set up bots to pirate every Mario game over and over till Nintendo goes bankrupt and I can buy it for pennies on the dollar.

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                                      cenzorrll@lemmy.ca
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                                      One of the pirate party guys made a Raspberry pi doohickey that did exactly that to show how stupid these calculations are. It constantly downloaded to a null device, or moved it to a null device once compete so the file never existed except incredibly briefly. I think it also tracked how many times it was downloaded so the “cost” could be calculated.

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                                      • pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                        Don’t forget the include the weight of the equipment and other supplies. In reality it was 500g of cocaine and the weight of the suitcase and shoes that were adjacent.

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                                        fartographer@lemmy.world
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                                        “Then they’re gonna grind up the suitcase, which the action alone is worth at least 13¢ per turn of the grinder. That’s approximately *draws numbers with finger on the table* $62Bajillion, and then they’re gonna sell the suitcase powder to children, which children are worth $10,000, so each life destroyed by “carry-on crack,” that’s the street name… Factor in life insurance, media advertising, and college tuition, that’s EASILY $14Bajillion! Finally, those shoes are gonna be sold on eBay, which Air Jordans are probably worth $5000, so that’s $10000 for the single pair of shoes. And, if you’ll look in the room, everyone is wearing shoes! Which is worth another $1600Bajillion!!! We just took $5761Kajillion of drugs off the streets and saved our taxpayers $54Billion! And all at the mere cost of our $400Million annual budget!”

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                                        • K kyrgizion@lemmy.world

                                          TPB is basically immortal. Any instance taken down can be back up in minutes. It’s a game of whack-a-mole you can never win.

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                                          fartographer@lemmy.world
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                                          Seems that way now, but just imagine AI… Once we ChatGPT our investigations, the pirates will all be caught so super-fast. Give us money, please.

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