"This is a blatant, unapologetic act of vicious union busting" - Hundreds of Rockstar employees sign letter to management, demanding fired colleagues get reinstated
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my point was that you are judging those who wanted to help as not doing enough. not being good enough.
not everyone can dedicate time. they’re not wrong for wanting to help and not being able to.
I’m not judging people by stating that certain strategies don’t work.
It would be judge-y if I stated that they were stupid for believing such a thing. Which was not my intention at all.
Not buying a game is by definition inaction. It’s not the fault of the people that this is the only way left for them to “protest”. But as I said: it’s also not a moral imperative to do anything, if you’re not able to.
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I feel like the only person in the world who’s never cared for GTA
We are also talking about gamers here. How many would give up gta6 just to take a stand? Most will probably say stuff like “no ethical consumption under capitalism” or “it’s not like it’ll make a difference”
Gamers gonna game
This was always strange for my Ukrainian mind. Every Ukrainian I know boycott every russian product everywhere. So ethical consumption is indeed possible if you know about the issue and you have moral compass.
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Well, isn’t that what we’re doing here? The entire point is to communicate you stance to others.
What you’re doing here is not a coordinated effort.
And there’s quite a few AAA titles that have suffered simply because the customer base actually can communicate.
Lol. Whut? I can point to no example like that and ample examples where these kinds of “boycots” did squat (like e.g. with the original Modern Warfare 2 not having a server browser).
Well, it has to start somewhere.
From Dragon Age: Veilguard and Suicide Squad to Condord and Redfall. They all underperformed for the same reason. People talked.
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I’m not judging people by stating that certain strategies don’t work.
It would be judge-y if I stated that they were stupid for believing such a thing. Which was not my intention at all.
Not buying a game is by definition inaction. It’s not the fault of the people that this is the only way left for them to “protest”. But as I said: it’s also not a moral imperative to do anything, if you’re not able to.
Why do you care so much about someone deciding not to buy a game as a result of this? I would say if someone who planned to buy the game decided not to because of this it makes an impact on that person.
That person gets asked by a friend why they didn’t pre-order. they tell them. that friend who didn’t know now knows. it spreads.
you are not the judge of what is and isn’t impactful. or what does and doesn’t matter.
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Or better yet: form the union out of spite. All of them.
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Well, it has to start somewhere.
From Dragon Age: Veilguard and Suicide Squad to Condord and Redfall. They all underperformed for the same reason. People talked.
Good luck with that with GT fucking A 6…
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Why do you care so much about someone deciding not to buy a game as a result of this? I would say if someone who planned to buy the game decided not to because of this it makes an impact on that person.
That person gets asked by a friend why they didn’t pre-order. they tell them. that friend who didn’t know now knows. it spreads.
you are not the judge of what is and isn’t impactful. or what does and doesn’t matter.
How does that signal reach Take2? How will Take2 know that these sales that will not have happened were due to their union busting?
When will those people “cave in” and simply buy the game whenit’s been released for 4 years on discount? These things don’t work without a PR campaign. I don’t make the rules. I’m sim’ly the messengere
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Good luck with that with GT fucking A 6…
I have no interest in the GTA franchise, personally. I’m more interested in what goes on behind the scenes. The industry is in a bit of a turmoil at the moment and that definitely has my attention.
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I have no interest in the GTA franchise, personally. I’m more interested in what goes on behind the scenes. The industry is in a bit of a turmoil at the moment and that definitely has my attention.
Your lack of interest hasn’t stopped the franchise being like the second biggest video game franchise. I’m afraid that this won’t notably hurt their sales. Especially since you probably weren’t gonna buy it anyway.
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Your lack of interest hasn’t stopped the franchise being like the second biggest video game franchise. I’m afraid that this won’t notably hurt their sales. Especially since you probably weren’t gonna buy it anyway.
Nope, but I’d encourage anyone who would have bought it, but are now on the fence due their own moral reasons, to stick with their gut. A piece of entertainment isn’t more important than personal principles, regardless of it’s popularity and how many others may buy it anyway.
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Nope, but I’d encourage anyone who would have bought it, but are now on the fence due their own moral reasons, to stick with their gut. A piece of entertainment isn’t more important than personal principles, regardless of it’s popularity and how many others may buy it anyway.
Then you’ll have reached nothing but given a few people a feeling of moral superiorty and saved them a few bucks.
But it is not effective in the sense that these workers will be able to work in this sector again or will get their job back. A few folks complaining and pledging not to buy the game won’t scare Take2 to rehire the workers or stop unionbusting.
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Then you’ll have reached nothing but given a few people a feeling of moral superiorty and saved them a few bucks.
But it is not effective in the sense that these workers will be able to work in this sector again or will get their job back. A few folks complaining and pledging not to buy the game won’t scare Take2 to rehire the workers or stop unionbusting.
I’m not the one trying to achieve something like that. That’s all your war.
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It’s nowhere near that simple. Not even close. Even forming a limited company or LLP is more than “an Excel sheet” and that’s before you even start the due diligence process. Unless you wanna go the sole trader route, in which case good luck with the whole “unlimited personal liability” thing.
I forgot folks want plastics sent to shops and homes. You’re right. We need 20% more folks per unionists to even print game covers.
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Then what are you trying to achieve, exactly?
That’s all your war.
I doubt it, but ok.
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Sounds like you need a Tricorn hat, matey, and to sail the seven seas.
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Sounds like you need a Tricorn hat, matey, and to sail the seven seas.
You should review profiles of folks in the threadiverse more often. You’d be surprise what hobby I do every Friday for readers internationally.
It’s just I am more anarchist than your average monopoly money debtor that I needed to collaborate with Prunebutt 🧵 to get real praxis started.
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How does that signal reach Take2? How will Take2 know that these sales that will not have happened were due to their union busting?
When will those people “cave in” and simply buy the game whenit’s been released for 4 years on discount? These things don’t work without a PR campaign. I don’t make the rules. I’m sim’ly the messengere
you seem to be a messenger for your own opinions and nothing else.
and your methods don’t make you righteous or just. all it shows is that you’re a very loud soapboxer with an idealist take on the situation.
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Well, good for you. But don’t act as if you helped.
thank goodness you were here to salvage the situation. you really are falling on your sword out here to help those affected by this, eh?
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You should review profiles of folks in the threadiverse more often. You’d be surprise what hobby I do every Friday for readers internationally.
It’s just I am more anarchist than your average monopoly money debtor that I needed to collaborate with Prunebutt 🧵 to get real praxis started.
Ah, voyager sucks at profile viewing, unfortunately. I probably should find a different client.
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thank goodness you were here to salvage the situation. you really are falling on your sword out here to help those affected by this, eh?
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Happy to help.
