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Carney’s Message to the World: The Rules No Longer Protect You | The Walrus

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    grte@lemmy.ca
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    Not a fan of this guy’s domestic policy but at least he’s pragmatic enough to see the writing on the wall.

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      humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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      Was a very good speech, but I don’t believe he’s genuinely ready/asking to question the US empire’s big lies. https://lemmy.ca/post/58979467

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        “Welcome to the club”

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        • S skozzii@lemmy.ca

          Thank God Pierre Pollivre wasn’t elected or this would be a much different story.

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          orbitz@lemmy.ca
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          He’d bend over and ask for Canada to take more. Nothing I’ve read from him sounds like a proper leader of this country. He’s as whiny as a toddler like the neighbor’s ‘leader’. Calling that thing a leader is laughable, he couldn’t lead a train on the track unless there was a pile of gold in sight.

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            Malle_Yeno
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            Wow, I can’t believe I’m about to say that I like what this banker just said.

            But uhh, I think I like what this banker just said.

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            • K kichae@lemmy.ca

              I wish he was less of a, you know, investor capitalist, but his take on international relations is a wonder to behold. This speech basically boiled down to his election speeches, calling out the US, and telling the world that the Big Fish are nobody’s friend, and that the rest of us need to partner up and stop competing with each other to simp for the Americans.

              He basically declared that the American Empire is over, and we’re done acting as a vassal state.

              Fucking wild. I never thought I’d live to see the day.

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              Warehouse
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                Thank God Pierre Pollivre wasn’t elected or this would be a much different story.

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                PP at the world economic forum:

                GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK GAH… We need to support our allies in seizing Greenland GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK

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                • R Rentlar

                  I know that many here and myself included, don’t appreciate his anti-worker example of the “Workers of the World Unite” being used as the lie of a corrupt regime…

                  However, this was a profound speech, and I would say one of Carney’s best since his election as Prime Minister. A great leader recognizes their own leadership and government’s faults to try and find the best way forward.

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                  asg101@lemmy.ca
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                  I know that many here and myself included, don’t appreciate his anti-worker example of the “Workers of the World Unite” being used as the lie of a corrupt regime…

                  That was my first thought, why the fuck did he have to dismiss and disparage workers from the very start of his speech? Then I remembered, he is a banker, he serves the bankers, and bankers have no use for workers except to bleed them dry.

                  It is encouraging that he recognizes SOME of the failures of the current system, but he ignored the rise of fascism world-wide, and still thinks everything will be fine if we just have more militarism and capitalism.

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                    PP at the world economic forum:

                    GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK GAH… We need to support our allies in seizing Greenland GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK

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                    quadhammer@lemmy.world
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                    The Gluck is the sound of him throating cock, right?

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                      megaman_exe@beehaw.org
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                      I think he’s saying nice words, but I’ll believe them when I see actions. I should preface this with, I understand running a country is like sailing a massive ship. It takes time to correct course. Additionally, it would be great if they worked with the NDP and seemed like they cared more lol.

                      Canada keeps tip toeing around the whole Palestinian genocide. I assume because it’s largely american backed, but if what he says is true, then I would like to see them speak up more. They talk about Greenland and Ukraine but it would be nice for them to…be equal.

                      Additionally in terms of the economy, we might be largely well educated but many of the people I know have degrees, diplomas and even masters and have had a hell of a time finding worthwhile work (if any) for the past 6 years. Some have had better luck than others, but like…damn it doesn’t seem like we’re prospering here. Cost of living has skyrocketed. My outlook for the future isn’t looking great. I largely have no idea if I’ll be living comfortably in a decade or be worse off. It’s difficult if not impossible to plan for a future.

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                        This was a historic speech and I sincerely hope the European leaders get the message. It was also very surprising to hear him lay bare the problem with the old world order and talking about a new one that would live up to its ideals. There is more to Carney than I thought.

                        I still oppose many of his domestic policies that I consider too right wing. But that’s what a democracy is about.

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                        • Q quadhammer@lemmy.world

                          The Gluck is the sound of him throating cock, right?

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                          Correct!

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                              Correct!

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                              bc_viper@lemmy.world
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                              Dudes to small to cause a gluck

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                              • O orbitz@lemmy.ca

                                He’d bend over and ask for Canada to take more. Nothing I’ve read from him sounds like a proper leader of this country. He’s as whiny as a toddler like the neighbor’s ‘leader’. Calling that thing a leader is laughable, he couldn’t lead a train on the track unless there was a pile of gold in sight.

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                                bc_viper@lemmy.world
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                                He lost so bad he got a pity seat and is causing his party to collapse

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                                  PP at the world economic forum:

                                  GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK GAH… We need to support our allies in seizing Greenland GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK

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                                  NotSteve_
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                                  He wouldn’t even have been there (nor any other CPC MPs). He wants to be Canada’s Trump so bad but he’s so bad at it that he’s somehow even less likable than the actual demented fascist child molester himself

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                                  • S skozzii@lemmy.ca

                                    Thank God Pierre Pollivre wasn’t elected or this would be a much different story.

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                                    panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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                                    At some point during the speech this popped in my head:

                                    I just cannot imagine the world of shit we’d be living in if he had won the election. Even since, he’s contributed absolutely nothing to the political discourse in this country. And he’s changing seats, again.

                                    (And I know Draper is an asshole, I just mean the whole vibe is what came to mind. I don’t think I’ve heard Carney even mention Polievre since letting him have a seat with the by-election).

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                                    • B bc_viper@lemmy.world

                                      He lost so bad he got a pity seat and is causing his party to collapse

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                                      panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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                                      The pity seat isn’t good enough for him, they’re going to run him in another seat.

                                      I don’t know if that means he simply hates it there, or the party plans on dumping him and returning that seat to a party faithful.

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                                      • R Rentlar

                                        I know that many here and myself included, don’t appreciate his anti-worker example of the “Workers of the World Unite” being used as the lie of a corrupt regime…

                                        However, this was a profound speech, and I would say one of Carney’s best since his election as Prime Minister. A great leader recognizes their own leadership and government’s faults to try and find the best way forward.

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                                        Hazematman
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                                        I think he’s just a capitalist banker with agenda to push capitalist friendly policies but in the context of how he compares it to rules based order (a potentially good thing) I don’t think this is what he meant. He says we pretend we have rules based order because it was a good thing even though we know at heart that strong powers can act outside the rules. The shop owners pretend the workers are united (a good thing) even though they know the government is corrupt and does not support the workers.

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                                        • acargitzT acargitz

                                          This was a historic speech and I sincerely hope the European leaders get the message. It was also very surprising to hear him lay bare the problem with the old world order and talking about a new one that would live up to its ideals. There is more to Carney than I thought.

                                          I still oppose many of his domestic policies that I consider too right wing. But that’s what a democracy is about.

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                                          hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works
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                                          Listening to him again reminded me of '08 when he helped lead us out of the Wall St shit storm. It’s the main reason I voted for him too. He tells the truth - no sugar coating, no dumb cliches, no lies to make you feel better.

                                          I’m not happy with everything he’s done (see Bill C-2) but when things get rough he lays the cards on the table and says it like it is.

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