This was a historic speech and I sincerely hope the European leaders get the message. It was also very surprising to hear him lay bare the problem with the old world order and talking about a new one that would live up to its ideals. There is more to Carney than I thought.

I still oppose many of his domestic policies that I consider too right wing. But that’s what a democracy is about.

Correct!

Dudes to small to cause a gluck

He lost so bad he got a pity seat and is causing his party to collapse

He wouldn’t even have been there (nor any other CPC MPs). He wants to be Canada’s Trump so bad but he’s so bad at it that he’s somehow even less likable than the actual demented fascist child molester himself

At some point during the speech this popped in my head:

I just cannot imagine the world of shit we’d be living in if he had won the election. Even since, he’s contributed absolutely nothing to the political discourse in this country. And he’s changing seats, again.

(And I know Draper is an asshole, I just mean the whole vibe is what came to mind. I don’t think I’ve heard Carney even mention Polievre since letting him have a seat with the by-election).

The pity seat isn’t good enough for him, they’re going to run him in another seat.

I don’t know if that means he simply hates it there, or the party plans on dumping him and returning that seat to a party faithful.

I think he’s just a capitalist banker with agenda to push capitalist friendly policies but in the context of how he compares it to rules based order (a potentially good thing) I don’t think this is what he meant. He says we pretend we have rules based order because it was a good thing even though we know at heart that strong powers can act outside the rules. The shop owners pretend the workers are united (a good thing) even though they know the government is corrupt and does not support the workers.

Listening to him again reminded me of '08 when he helped lead us out of the Wall St shit storm. It’s the main reason I voted for him too. He tells the truth - no sugar coating, no dumb cliches, no lies to make you feel better.

I’m not happy with everything he’s done (see Bill C-2) but when things get rough he lays the cards on the table and says it like it is.

Don’t worry. Trump is speaking in Davos tomorrow.

Oh happy days.

If you’ve only read the headlines and not read the actual speech , you’re missing out on a lot of important details.

Edit: Updated link

I watched the whole speech. I am so proud to be Canadian!! I love that we have an educated, worldly, Prime Minister. He’s fucking amazing!

I’ve got some bad news for you. The only reason he isn’t our prime minister is because Trump happened.

An UNcomfortable amount of your fellow Canadians actual support that guy

Carney already told Trump to pound sand on the “Board of Peace”.

SupportED. Not so much anymore.

hes obviously the best option we can realistically hope for in our current social/political structure. HOWEVER. hes a politician, and a very wealthy banker. so dont miss the mountain for the trees here.

quietly pushing digital ID, AI, increased surveillance, decreased personal privacy, subverting charter rights and constitutional rights, giving our information without warrant to the police, our government, and the united states government and corporations, using tax payer funding to pay for private interest projects that directly undermine green energy and expand american, and other foreign financial interest in our countries resources. removing canadians ability to defend themselves against an apparantly imminent foreign invasion by reducing firearm availability and punishing legal gun owners as a result of an issue directly correlated to illegal firearms imported from the united states. all the while increasing police funding and military funding which also directly puts tax payer money into the pockets of military contractors, foreign and domestic. limiting the ability to defend our sovereignity to government employees rather than average citizens.

he gives a great speech, he is much better than pierre poilievre, however, he does not represent 99% of canadians, he represents the rich, industry, and established/emerging monopolies above all else. the new world order he speaks of is one where we will continue to struggle financially as workers so that corporations and the elite can maintain stable control over a productive yet exhausted population. snowballing the concentration of wealth and power to the elite, and new emerging elite class. while reducing ownership for consumers in virtually every single sector you can imagine. fuelling our economy with an indebted population.

the new boot on our heads is just a bit more polished and expensive, but it is still a boot on our heads. and its going to be a bit heavier than it was before. but with the right marketing, we will always beg for more, thinking its for our own good.

so unless you are already quite well off, dont expect a grand shift in your fortunes and affordability. not just because of him, or trump, or a new economic model, but the class that they both represent. the elites are shifting the board, and the people, as always, will bear the brunt of it all. while they make off like faceless bandits, and we infight against one another, fearful of immigrants, foreign powers, differing ideologies, and general security.

politicians are merely puppets, scape goats, hitmen, and sin eaters for the wealthy and poor alike. hired to take the guilt, shame, glory, and responsibility of our wanted desires so that we do not have to. when it goes good or bad we claim proudly or sheepishly who we voted for, and blame each other for the outcomes, regardless of how good or bad they may actually be, instead of directly addressing the faceless manipulators who guided and uplifted every single head of state in the modern world, for their benefit.

that is the beauty of being an elite, all the riches and glory, and no repercussions. the social backlash is for the political lackies.

when any head of state speaks, pretend they are only speaking to the wealthy. because they are.

“its a big club, and you aint in it”

“We knew RBIO was bullshit the whole time but we thought we could fake it til we make it” is pretty real and based.

I took that as more of an anti-soviet dig instead of an anti-worker dig.

There’s no doubt that infected dictatorships co-opt valid communist, leftist, socialist and working-class rhetoric to serve their own selfish authoritarian agenda.

The actual speech