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Just an FYI in case anyone was interested: if you're printing something potentially clandestine, be careful about where you print it.

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  • Veronica ExplainsV This user is from outside of this forum
    Veronica ExplainsV This user is from outside of this forum
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    Just an FYI in case anyone was interested: if you're printing something potentially clandestine, be careful about where you print it.

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    Ozzelot :anarchy: :linux:O Kiloku - Secretário do CaosK lebout2canap ⏚L Al WirtesA SaorsaS 21 Replies Last reply
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    • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

      Just an FYI in case anyone was interested: if you're printing something potentially clandestine, be careful about where you print it.

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      Ozzelot :anarchy: :linux:O This user is from outside of this forum
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      @vkc Somewhat ironically, the old dot matrix should be free of tracking dots.

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      • Ozzelot :anarchy: :linux:O Ozzelot :anarchy: :linux:

        @vkc Somewhat ironically, the old dot matrix should be free of tracking dots.

        Veronica ExplainsV This user is from outside of this forum
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        @ozzelot hmmm, I wonder if that's why someone still uses it

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        • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

          Just an FYI in case anyone was interested: if you're printing something potentially clandestine, be careful about where you print it.

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          Kiloku - Secretário do CaosK This user is from outside of this forum
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          @vkc gotta bust out the mimeographs. And I'm not even joking

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          • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

            Just an FYI in case anyone was interested: if you're printing something potentially clandestine, be careful about where you print it.

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            lebout2canap ⏚L This user is from outside of this forum
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            @vkc I was completely unaware, and yet I am not surprised.

            Veronica Olsen 🏳️‍🌈🇳🇴🌻V 1 Reply Last reply
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            • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

              @ozzelot hmmm, I wonder if that's why someone still uses it

              Renato RamondaR This user is from outside of this forum
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              @vkc @ozzelot

              Also still somewhat useful for multi copy transfer paper (not sure of the name in English) which work on impact (less and less common these days of course)

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              • Kiloku - Secretário do CaosK Kiloku - Secretário do Caos

                @vkc gotta bust out the mimeographs. And I'm not even joking

                Veronica ExplainsV This user is from outside of this forum
                Veronica ExplainsV This user is from outside of this forum
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                @Kiloku I look for one every month on Craigslist. It's on my bucket list of video topics to cover. "The sweetest copies you'll ever smell"

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                • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                  Just an FYI in case anyone was interested: if you're printing something potentially clandestine, be careful about where you print it.

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                  Al WirtesA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @vkc This is why I stick to cutting out letters from magazines and newspapers and taping them to the paper for my correspondence.

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                  • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                    Just an FYI in case anyone was interested: if you're printing something potentially clandestine, be careful about where you print it.

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                    SaorsaS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Reminded me of the caution people had around printing stuff out at pharmacies when I was younger.

                    @vkc@linuxmom.net
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                    • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                      Just an FYI in case anyone was interested: if you're printing something potentially clandestine, be careful about where you print it.

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                      SaorsaS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Reminded me of the caution people had around getting your photos developed at pharmacies when I was younger.

                      @vkc@linuxmom.net
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                      • Renato RamondaR Renato Ramonda

                        @vkc @ozzelot

                        Also still somewhat useful for multi copy transfer paper (not sure of the name in English) which work on impact (less and less common these days of course)

                        Ozzelot :anarchy: :linux:O This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @renatoram @vkc That might be the reason to use them in post offices and the like.
                        Sadly, when I was starting my new bank account last year, they just printed two copies of the paperwork on a laser, and why wouldn't they, it's fast as heck.

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                        • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                          Just an FYI in case anyone was interested: if you're printing something potentially clandestine, be careful about where you print it.

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                          SuperMoosieS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @vkc

                          Or just print out random yellow dots on the pages first, then feed it back in again for the print run.

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                          • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                            @Kiloku I look for one every month on Craigslist. It's on my bucket list of video topics to cover. "The sweetest copies you'll ever smell"

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                            @vkc @Kiloku As a kid, a friend and I ran a small neighborhood newspaper. We talked businesses into advertising in it, and distributed it in a maybe 10 block area because many people needed birdcage liner, and also because who didn't want to read a review of a TV show by a kid?

                            We talked the bowling alley into letting us use their mimeograph machine in exchange for an ad placement.

                            Mmmm. Mmmmimeograph smell.

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                            • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                              Just an FYI in case anyone was interested: if you're printing something potentially clandestine, be careful about where you print it.

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                              Oliver WaddellO This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @vkc Thank you. The Wikipedia article helpfully refers to software to help remove the pattern before publishing scans and thwart recognition of your printers pattern by adding a mask before printing https://github.com/dfd-tud/deda

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                              • Ozzelot :anarchy: :linux:O Ozzelot :anarchy: :linux:

                                @vkc Somewhat ironically, the old dot matrix should be free of tracking dots.

                                SuperMoosieS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @ozzelot @vkc

                                But I believe the impacts could be analysed and compared instead.

                                Buy a spare print head and bury it in the forrest, when not printing secret stuff.

                                Keep lots of example of printing with your normal print head.

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                                • Ozzelot :anarchy: :linux:O Ozzelot :anarchy: :linux:

                                  @renatoram @vkc That might be the reason to use them in post offices and the like.
                                  Sadly, when I was starting my new bank account last year, they just printed two copies of the paperwork on a laser, and why wouldn't they, it's fast as heck.

                                  Renato RamondaR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @ozzelot @vkc used to be (at least in Italy) that two copies that were not the result of a single unique action weren't legally considered actual copies, I believe.

                                  Plus, yeah, when printing hundreds of invoices in the early 2000s it was probably faster and cheaper (I remember pre-printed forms of continuous paper that would make 5 copies in one go).

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                                  • Ozzelot :anarchy: :linux:O Ozzelot :anarchy: :linux:

                                    @renatoram @vkc That might be the reason to use them in post offices and the like.
                                    Sadly, when I was starting my new bank account last year, they just printed two copies of the paperwork on a laser, and why wouldn't they, it's fast as heck.

                                    AprazethA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @ozzelot @renatoram @vkc

                                    Shipping companies still use them but it is becoming increasingly rare even amongst them (CMR form if memory serves me right)

                                    Fun fact: I used to work at a call center supporting software that allowed printing those forms. I can't tell you how many little tips for resolving printer issues we had - but rarely if ever had genuine unsolvable defects. And if something broke, replace the part *maybe* recalibrate and off you go

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                                    • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                                      Just an FYI in case anyone was interested: if you're printing something potentially clandestine, be careful about where you print it.

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                                      Sven Slootweg, low-spoons mode ("still kinky and horny anyway")J This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Sven Slootweg, low-spoons mode ("still kinky and horny anyway")
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                                      @vkc Related: a lot of things labelled as "fax machine" can actually also function as stand-alone USB printers. And "fax machines" are often free on classifieds, and use cheap generic cartridges/toners, and (aside from stuff like doorbell cameras) that means there's basically no paper or money trail from the original purchaser to you at all.

                                      It's not a bad way to get hold of a more or less anonymous printer.

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                                      • AprazethA Aprazeth

                                        @ozzelot @renatoram @vkc

                                        Shipping companies still use them but it is becoming increasingly rare even amongst them (CMR form if memory serves me right)

                                        Fun fact: I used to work at a call center supporting software that allowed printing those forms. I can't tell you how many little tips for resolving printer issues we had - but rarely if ever had genuine unsolvable defects. And if something broke, replace the part *maybe* recalibrate and off you go

                                        Renato RamondaR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @Aprazeth @ozzelot @vkc good old 120 columns Brother printers... They'd shake the table like a washing machine

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                                        • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                                          Just an FYI in case anyone was interested: if you're printing something potentially clandestine, be careful about where you print it.

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                                          D IngramI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @vkc The dot decoding was used in episode of The Night Agent, so hopefully awareness is increasing. Good reason to use a mono-only printer where possible.

                                          Each of these leaks shows just how broken classified document handling in the USA is.

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