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Is this new system we are moving to even Capitalism, 'nor is just Feudalism with modern technology?

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  • David Graeber InstituteD This user is from outside of this forum
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    David Graeber Institute
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    Is this new system we are moving to even Capitalism,

    or is just Feudalism with modern technology?

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    • David Graeber InstituteD David Graeber Institute

      Is this new system we are moving to even Capitalism,

      or is just Feudalism with modern technology?

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      GraydonG This user is from outside of this forum
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      @DGI If it was feudalism, the great and good would have obligations to the lowly in fact as well as law.

      What they're trying for can be described the mammonite flavour of a god-king autocracy. (It is supremely unhelpful that being a CEO makes you a god-king inside your corporate entity. That'd be a major design flaw to fix if there were any sense in keeping the limited liability corporation around.)

      In effect, you owe the autocrat your life, and they get your entire labour in recompense.

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        @DGI If it was feudalism, the great and good would have obligations to the lowly in fact as well as law.

        What they're trying for can be described the mammonite flavour of a god-king autocracy. (It is supremely unhelpful that being a CEO makes you a god-king inside your corporate entity. That'd be a major design flaw to fix if there were any sense in keeping the limited liability corporation around.)

        In effect, you owe the autocrat your life, and they get your entire labour in recompense.

        Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        @graydon @DGI

        Though the serfs back then also often fantasized about the violent deaths of their oppressors.

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          @graydon @DGI

          Though the serfs back then also often fantasized about the violent deaths of their oppressors.

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          @juergen_hubert @graydon @DGI I am really not on board with how a certain segment of the left romanticizes old-fashioned feudalism because it was terrible.

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            @juergen_hubert @graydon @DGI I am really not on board with how a certain segment of the left romanticizes old-fashioned feudalism because it was terrible.

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            @MisuseCase @graydon @DGI

            Yeah, there is a lot of romanticism revolving around the "family farm" - but at least in the period of 19th century Germany I am studying, the "family farms" were supported by a large underclass of tenant farmers, farmhands, and maids.

            There is a reason why millions of German emigrated to the USA and other European colonies.

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