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  3. Given how they can only be produced by exploitation of workers from the global majority no system including any of the big LLMs in their production can ever be called "fair".

Given how they can only be produced by exploitation of workers from the global majority no system including any of the big LLMs in their production can ever be called "fair".

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  • tanteT This user is from outside of this forum
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    Given how they can only be produced by exploitation of workers from the global majority no system including any of the big LLMs in their production can ever be called "fair".

    "Fair LLMs" of the size required to do the tasks people want LLMs to do (badly) do not exist.

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    • tanteT tante

      Given how they can only be produced by exploitation of workers from the global majority no system including any of the big LLMs in their production can ever be called "fair".

      "Fair LLMs" of the size required to do the tasks people want LLMs to do (badly) do not exist.

      QuincyQ This user is from outside of this forum
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      @tante

      ... and not needed IMO. There are enough people more than willing to do all those meaningful tasks ... !

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        @tante

        ... and not needed IMO. There are enough people more than willing to do all those meaningful tasks ... !

        tanteT This user is from outside of this forum
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        @quincy that is a different conversation.

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        • tanteT tante

          @quincy that is a different conversation.

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          @tante sure.

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            @tante

            ... and not needed IMO. There are enough people more than willing to do all those meaningful tasks ... !

            cuan_knaggsM This user is from outside of this forum
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            @quincy @tante but those people seem to think they need to be paid for their work and have their rights respected. you can't run a business like that

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              Given how they can only be produced by exploitation of workers from the global majority no system including any of the big LLMs in their production can ever be called "fair".

              "Fair LLMs" of the size required to do the tasks people want LLMs to do (badly) do not exist.

              Claudius LinkR This user is from outside of this forum
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              @tante
              I think it is possible to create small (and fair LLMs) which are capable to do the tasks people want them to do (but for a certain problem scope)

              Work Papa Reo Maori researchers developed speech recognition and natural language processing capabilities for Indigenous language communities, ensuring that the sovereignty of the data remains with them and the benefits derived from these technologies goes directly to their communities.
              https://papareo.nz/

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              • Claudius LinkR Claudius Link

                @tante
                I think it is possible to create small (and fair LLMs) which are capable to do the tasks people want them to do (but for a certain problem scope)

                Work Papa Reo Maori researchers developed speech recognition and natural language processing capabilities for Indigenous language communities, ensuring that the sovereignty of the data remains with them and the benefits derived from these technologies goes directly to their communities.
                https://papareo.nz/

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                @realn2s @tante small large language models aren't large language models. They're just language models.

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