I’m not sure where I got this idea, but I thought it was because Display Port doesn’t carry audio, and a single-cable solution was more appealing.

But apparently Display Port also supports audio, just none of my devices seem to recognize it…?

Apparently the only advantage of HDMI is ARC (Audio Return Channel), allowing devices to send audio back to the video source, which might be useful in some home theater setups.

Active ones aren’t cheap, though.

TBH you should be playing DRM content though smart TV/TV box apps anyway. Desktop Windows playback is more technically limited (for instance, no auto resolution/refresh rate switching) and aside from that you usually get a worse bitrate stream on a stuttery player.

I don’t even know about DRM playback on Linux.

Well Valve should sell an optional DisplayPort adapter then, right?

The Steam Machine is supposed to be plug and play, and not getting VRR on your TV is a huge compromise.

People who connect TVs to the Internet only invite malware. They usually don’t receive big fixes after a few years and tend to spy on all watched content.

Yes, that is what I meant, the ‘we’ used like an alien might observe us.

Theoretically we could stop buying TVs, but practically we are forced into it by supply.

And yes, licencing a standard beyond dev should be just illegal, it hurts (almost) everyone.

Funny, I have done it for years at home, I guess I am just confused

We don’t flock to it, they are forced upon us. Finding TVs that support DP is almost impossible.

Nothing is forced on anyone. If people refused to buy them they would be forced to add other ports.

However as someone who considers themselves fairly techy and doesn’t comply with such shitfuckery, I only learned about this last week.

Moving forward I just won’t be buying any TVs at all.

Edit: God fucking forbid any of you actually do anything, or even better, refrain from doing anything, besides bitch and moan on the internet.

That’s great for you, but try to convince one other person who’s not already in your headspace they should not buy any more TVs. That’s almost an impossible ask. Like telling someone not to get an Android or iPhone because of the data collection. Geeks like us can put up with these inconveniences but we’re a very small minority.

People are still going to get the product unless there’s a truly viable alternative available. Until we see a new standard whose goal is to specifically target replacing HDMI in this context, there’s not really any way to suggest people “vote with their wallet” on something as common as HDMI.

I’m not sure why people are so upset.
It’s a little annoying sure, but don’t these work?

The movie studios. As the person above said, the HDMI consortium (owned by movie studios) is focused on protecting their members IP rights from pirates. HDMI has built in DRM, that could be removed from an open source driver.

Maybe it is the movie studios, but there don’t appear to be any of them on the list of HDMI Forum members, or on its board of directors. So my first guess was some combination of Microsoft, Nvidia, Sony, and Apple. Whoever it is though, the question is how they went about convincing the HDMI Forum as a whole to take such a self-destructive approach.

I’m not sure what that has to do with what I said. This is about corporations asking consumers to bend over and get fucked, and consumers as a whole repeatedly lining up to take it.

BFGs with display port do exist as a viable replacement for a TV, but they’re expensive and kinda niche.

They’re not lining up to take it though. It’s all they’re given. When HDMI was new, most people skipped component cables entirely and went straight from 480i analog to 720p digital overnight and the only way to do that at the time was HDMI. Years and years later, we still only have HDMI and DP as the two standards and they’re not putting the alternative on TVs.

The consumer does have the responsibility to make the choice, but only when those choices are actually presented to them. If there were DP TVs as available options, I’d agree with your point, but I’m not about to ask my friends to boycott HDMI TVs anytime soon because I know all it will do is inconvenience them and it won’t make a lick of difference in the market.

They’re not lining up to take it though

They are though.

It’s all they’re given

Then they can choose not to buy anything, or to buy a computer monitor.

it won’t make a lick of difference in the market.

This is the defeatist mentality that keeps them so successful.

Sincerely! As someone who dislikes DisplayPort, moves like that makes me want to use it over HDMI.

Gather ‘round the 27” gaming monitor for the big game this weekend at my place!

Okay sure

No one is saying it’s great. But that’s the point. You have to choose between convenience and getting fucked. And overwhelmingly people will choose the former. And that’s what they’re counting on.

Choose the latter and those stupid fucking companies are forced to bend to your will and then you can buy whatever fuckin TV you want.

This ethical position is such crap in the modern era and if you take it you simply aren’t going to be contributing to this conversation much longer. Unless you go full stallman and get a specific laptop from 15 years ago with very specific hardware that you can flash and install very specific software onto it you have to make peace with the fact that as a modern consumer the landscape has fucked you.

Your choices are to moderate how fucked yoh get in terms of anticonsumer bullshit because the market is stacked against you and the illusion of choice is always there. HDMI is a great example, smartphone platforms outside of android and ios is another. Are their options outside of these walled gardens? Technically but they’re generally much worse and often cost more than a comparable model.

It’s just you can refuse to buy an iphone, you can refuse to buy an android, but you can’t really refuse to buy a smartphone in the modern era. You can refuse to buy a tv but you can’t really refuse to buy a display of some kind. You might think you beat the system if you just get a laptop or computer monitor I guess but not really, monitors increasingly don’t have DP and frankly the whole “vote with your wallet” thing is stupid anyway. Consumers are idiots who will continually vote to fuck themselves. We need regulatory oversight.