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Some photographer I follow went to Auschwitz and took a picture of the famous gate.

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  • Moreau VazhT This user is from outside of this forum
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    Some photographer I follow went to Auschwitz and took a picture of the famous gate. I think there's something quite admirable about the way that Germany tried to deal with that legacy.

    In Britain, Auschwitz would either have a national trust gift shop selling jam or it would have been redeveloped as a posh housing estate called 'The Smoke House' or 'The Tannery' or something.

    In Britain, we drop our history overboard lest it incriminates anyone important.

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      Some photographer I follow went to Auschwitz and took a picture of the famous gate. I think there's something quite admirable about the way that Germany tried to deal with that legacy.

      In Britain, Auschwitz would either have a national trust gift shop selling jam or it would have been redeveloped as a posh housing estate called 'The Smoke House' or 'The Tannery' or something.

      In Britain, we drop our history overboard lest it incriminates anyone important.

      Moreau VazhT This user is from outside of this forum
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      Think of what happened when they tried to take down a few statues to people who made fortunes through slavery.

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      • Moreau VazhT Moreau Vazh

        Think of what happened when they tried to take down a few statues to people who made fortunes through slavery.

        Moreau VazhT This user is from outside of this forum
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        I know that the full cultural consequences were quite often not felt until the 1960s when a generation of students in places like Germany and France started asking about the senior officials who had started their careers as Nazi bureaucrats but Britain set the world ablaze for centuries and still actively avoids anything even remotely approaching introspection.

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        • Moreau VazhT Moreau Vazh

          Some photographer I follow went to Auschwitz and took a picture of the famous gate. I think there's something quite admirable about the way that Germany tried to deal with that legacy.

          In Britain, Auschwitz would either have a national trust gift shop selling jam or it would have been redeveloped as a posh housing estate called 'The Smoke House' or 'The Tannery' or something.

          In Britain, we drop our history overboard lest it incriminates anyone important.

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          @Taskerland it helps that Auschwitz is located in a victim country and not on the land of perpetuator.

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            @Taskerland it helps that Auschwitz is located in a victim country and not on the land of perpetuator.

            Moreau VazhT This user is from outside of this forum
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            @vdonnut Very true, but in fairness there is a Buchenwald memorial you can visit.

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            • Moreau VazhT Moreau Vazh

              I know that the full cultural consequences were quite often not felt until the 1960s when a generation of students in places like Germany and France started asking about the senior officials who had started their careers as Nazi bureaucrats but Britain set the world ablaze for centuries and still actively avoids anything even remotely approaching introspection.

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              @Taskerland My mother (who was a teacher) went youth hostelling just after the war in German - and wrote it up as her graduate teacher training thesis. It's weirdly harrowing reading. All these kids 18-19 meeting everyone else after the war, almost a new world. They were hand written and I sense the water on the pages wasn't always rain.

              On other matters the things the Normans.. then the English did to the Irish are astonishing. And celebrated. Almost a trial run for empire.

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              • Moreau VazhT Moreau Vazh

                @vdonnut Very true, but in fairness there is a Buchenwald memorial you can visit.

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                @Taskerland @vdonnut

                There was pushback and reluctance by old Nazis post WWII, but the 68-Generation was instrumental in Germany‘s ongoing process of working through its past.

                Re: concentration camp memorials in Germany. There’s Dachau, Flossenbürg, Bergen-Belsen, Neuengamme and more. The German Foreign Ministry also supports the Auschwitz Memorial financially.

                There’s over 50 entries for „Concentration Camps and Subcamps“ in the memorials listing for „Germany“.

                https://www.gedenkstaettenforum.de/en/memorial-museums/memorial-museums-overview

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                  @Taskerland @vdonnut

                  There was pushback and reluctance by old Nazis post WWII, but the 68-Generation was instrumental in Germany‘s ongoing process of working through its past.

                  Re: concentration camp memorials in Germany. There’s Dachau, Flossenbürg, Bergen-Belsen, Neuengamme and more. The German Foreign Ministry also supports the Auschwitz Memorial financially.

                  There’s over 50 entries for „Concentration Camps and Subcamps“ in the memorials listing for „Germany“.

                  https://www.gedenkstaettenforum.de/en/memorial-museums/memorial-museums-overview

                  Moreau VazhT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @Morgunin Same in France... it wasn't until the 60s that the myth of the Citoyen-Resistant was torpedoed. @vdonnut

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