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  • Chris TrottierA This user is from outside of this forum
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    Paid a woman for vocals on a track.

    I asked upfront if she could sing the assignment. She said yes.

    We negotiated terms and agreed on delivery in six days.

    Last night she messaged me. She delivered not one track, but two. Five days early.

    That was the first red flag. I only asked for one.

    I listened. Both tracks had full instrumental backing even though I asked for vocals only. Both were wildly divergent from the original song. The vocals had obvious artifacts. She delivered MP3s instead of WAVs.

    I ran AI detectors. Three said human. One said AI. I can’t prove AI was used, but I’m confident it was.

    Regardless, she failed the assignment.

    I considered disputing the order. However, I didn’t want the escalation overhead.

    So I won’t hire her again. Which is unfortunate, because if she had nailed this one job, I would have been a repeat customer.

    Total gong show. Worst contractor I’ve dealt with.
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    • Chris TrottierA Chris Trottier
      Paid a woman for vocals on a track.

      I asked upfront if she could sing the assignment. She said yes.

      We negotiated terms and agreed on delivery in six days.

      Last night she messaged me. She delivered not one track, but two. Five days early.

      That was the first red flag. I only asked for one.

      I listened. Both tracks had full instrumental backing even though I asked for vocals only. Both were wildly divergent from the original song. The vocals had obvious artifacts. She delivered MP3s instead of WAVs.

      I ran AI detectors. Three said human. One said AI. I can’t prove AI was used, but I’m confident it was.

      Regardless, she failed the assignment.

      I considered disputing the order. However, I didn’t want the escalation overhead.

      So I won’t hire her again. Which is unfortunate, because if she had nailed this one job, I would have been a repeat customer.

      Total gong show. Worst contractor I’ve dealt with.
      Garden Variety LinguistG This user is from outside of this forum
      Garden Variety LinguistG This user is from outside of this forum
      Garden Variety Linguist
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      @atomicpoet
      Sounds like she literally doesn't have the ability to nail the assignment... How much of our economy is going to become AI grift, where nothing of value is being made, while still burning resources & harming the environment?

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        @atomicpoet
        Sounds like she literally doesn't have the ability to nail the assignment... How much of our economy is going to become AI grift, where nothing of value is being made, while still burning resources & harming the environment?

        Chris TrottierA This user is from outside of this forum
        Chris TrottierA This user is from outside of this forum
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        Garden Variety Linguist I’m not anti-AI. I’m anti-fraud. If you claim to have a skill and you don’t demonstrate competency, that is cheating your customer out of money.

        That said, AI most definitely will be a tool used by fraudsters.

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        • Chris TrottierA Chris Trottier

          Garden Variety Linguist I’m not anti-AI. I’m anti-fraud. If you claim to have a skill and you don’t demonstrate competency, that is cheating your customer out of money.

          That said, AI most definitely will be a tool used by fraudsters.

          Garden Variety LinguistG This user is from outside of this forum
          Garden Variety LinguistG This user is from outside of this forum
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          @atomicpoet
          Hm, great point, & I guess I'm not anti-AI either. One place where I've seen it used quite effectively is to develop art, maps & other props for TTRPGs. The magic is in knowing how to prompt the AI properly, which I suppose could evolve into a new type of "programming" ("prompting", I guess).

          I've also heard some pretty decent AI songs - the best ones have human-written lyrics. Typically there aren't any artifacts in the singing - more sophisticated algorithms, I guess.

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          • Garden Variety LinguistG Garden Variety Linguist

            @atomicpoet
            Hm, great point, & I guess I'm not anti-AI either. One place where I've seen it used quite effectively is to develop art, maps & other props for TTRPGs. The magic is in knowing how to prompt the AI properly, which I suppose could evolve into a new type of "programming" ("prompting", I guess).

            I've also heard some pretty decent AI songs - the best ones have human-written lyrics. Typically there aren't any artifacts in the singing - more sophisticated algorithms, I guess.

            Chris TrottierA This user is from outside of this forum
            Chris TrottierA This user is from outside of this forum
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            Garden Variety Linguist Here’s an example of how AI could be useful. I sung a melody, asked AI to generate a guitar riff based on that melody. After additional iterations, a cool psych-rock tune was made.

            But the original melody came from me—even if the singing kind of sucks.

            It’s a cool concept. However, if I were to release this commercially, I’d prefer it if actual humans were to perform it since humans are more adept at the small details.

            Chris Trottier (@atomicpoet@atomicpoet.org)

            So I took a basic melody that I sang, added additional vocal layers, then drummed on my desk. Then I converted the vocals into guitar samples, and converted my desk drumming into drum samples. Thi...

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