The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video.
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@Daojoan Bonus funsies of your hearing is shit, so you have to rely on the auto-generated captions. Ask me how I know how much fun that is.
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I blame Discord on the downfall of the modern web. You used to be able to find answers to your problems easily on moderated forums, where people used to follow the rules of netiquette. Nowadays you need to join private server and scroll through endless spam.
IDK who had the idea of moving the support/community into de facto chatroom that is Discord, but there is a special place in hell for them.
@miszeleq @earthshine @Daojoan I don’t know that this is Discord’s fault. It started with the rise of social media, which was the death of classic forums. Social media then abused their position for profit, which drove people to more private options. Since everyone forgot how to run their own service, they tried using whatever SaaS option they were already using to fill the gap. I miss the vBulletin days.
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@miszeleq @earthshine @Daojoan I blame stackoverflow.
That guy set out with the stated goal of killing all forums and usenet and having all questions and such in one central database used by everyone.
It fucking worked. Those things all died and search results largely point at that place. AI is starting to swamp it out, but there you go...
I was actually slow to shift from usenet/forum to stackoverflow. Eventually I did until I just stopped participating in the "community".
@crazyeddie @miszeleq @earthshine @Daojoan Facebook Groups and Reddit where also guilty here.
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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan I feel that and I am glad that we convinced a bunch of people to write tutorials: https://oemof-solph.readthedocs.io/en/latest/tutorials.html
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Food bloggers used to write things down. That is, they used to teach you how to cook. Nowadays, they still write, but it's like every article starts with, "I was born on a farm in Nebraska..."
@Professor_Stevens @Daojoan
I understand that specific phenomenon to be a result of plain old recipe instructions not looking "legit" to web search algorithms. Leading with an irrelevant story is an SEO trick to look like a "real" webpage to a computer, even though it drives us actual humans absolutely nuts. -
@Daojoan makes me want to make a tutorial video that's just the text of the tutorial slowly scrolling past
@ghosttie @Daojoan
Videos that are just people reading a webpage to you are some of the most aggravating to me. Dude, if I'm *actually* looking for a video, I'm looking for someone who has new information I can't find in text form, opinions, or at *least* has aggregated multiple sources. I'm not a little kid; I don't need analog text-to-speech. -
The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan
Too right. Video guides are only one pillar of (potential) education. -
The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan Absolutely! Good God! So sad honestly! I'm glad though that the 100 Days of SwiftUI is still text-based along with the video, but still... I know what you mean!
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@Daojoan all compounded by the fact that the vast majority of people uploading instructional videos are *monumentally fucking shit* at instructing. Teaching is a skill, and most people who try to do it just leave you wanting to punch them repeatedly for being so obliviously bad at it
@mark_f_lynch @Daojoan
Odd opinion: if education were keeping up with the times, English classes would *absolutely* be replacing their third treatments of basic English grammar and five-paragraph essays with three months of coverage of how to make a good video essay. -
@ftranschel @Npars01 @Daojoan
Not for the ones that are actually embedded into the videos. "Shoutout to today's sponsor..." -
The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan And still, here I am, with thousands of words in written course materials, struggling to fill my instructor-led course cohorts. Good instructional design isn't as flashy as a YT thumbnail, but much more effort. Haven't cracked this one yet.
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@crowbriarhexe @Daojoan
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The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
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@Daojoan forget code, it takes me *forever* to learn video games now for the same reason.
@CartyBoston @Daojoan
I understand that a factor in that is that "Fandom" (nee Wikia) goes out of its way to attempt to buy every single wiki for every single game, and tries to find excuses to sue any they don't own (like someone phrasing the same basic info the same way). I've heard that they own GameFAQs these days too, which is part of why people barely contribute to that anymore.Wish I had ideas for how to shatter that particular master of the universe.
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@ftranschel @Npars01 @Daojoan
Not for the ones that are actually embedded into the videos. "Shoutout to today's sponsor..." -
The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...
@Daojoan
Funnily enough, I was ranting similarly earlier today. It’s so rude to waste so much of your audience’s time just because you can’t be bothered to write a text version.
https://mastodon.social/@KimSJ/116113853910864608 -
@mark_f_lynch @Daojoan
Odd opinion: if education were keeping up with the times, English classes would *absolutely* be replacing their third treatments of basic English grammar and five-paragraph essays with three months of coverage of how to make a good video essay.@pteryx @mark_f_lynch @Daojoan oh, my kid who's in college rn has absolutely been assigned "produce a podcast about [topic]"
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@mark_f_lynch @Daojoan
Odd opinion: if education were keeping up with the times, English classes would *absolutely* be replacing their third treatments of basic English grammar and five-paragraph essays with three months of coverage of how to make a good video essay.@pteryx @mark_f_lynch @Daojoan
Please no! The basics are being lost far too fast already! -
@Professor_Stevens @Daojoan
I understand that specific phenomenon to be a result of plain old recipe instructions not looking "legit" to web search algorithms. Leading with an irrelevant story is an SEO trick to look like a "real" webpage to a computer, even though it drives us actual humans absolutely nuts. -
@pteryx @mark_f_lynch @Daojoan
Please no! The basics are being lost far too fast already!@KimSJ @mark_f_lynch @Daojoan
I get the sense that the basics are perceived by a lot of students as arbitrary, purposeless, and meaningless. They might be retained better if the logic behind, say, why punctuation even exists were clearer to the average student.
