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  • Greg JohnstonG Greg Johnston

    @sarae I’ve not seen the nega-fav posts, what they got against favoriting?

    SaraS This user is from outside of this forum
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    Sara
    wrote last edited by
    #18

    @GPJohnston it doesn't feed an algo so that's a problem, I guess? idk it's a mindset that doesn't fit well with how I use the system

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    • Deer Witch NyxM Deer Witch Nyx

      @sarae @awawawa yes! I sometimes read as +support +love +you’re seen

      in disability communities I feel especially it never vibes “they LIKE that I’m having a brutal week,” it’s “they saw I’m having a brutal week & sent me a boop to know I’m not alone”

      I think it’s v weird when I see discourse and ppl are adamant it only means “I like this”. Have your friends not been suffering & do you not boop support?

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      #19

      @moss yeah, I definitely use it as a boop of friendly acknowledgement too. @sarae @awawawa

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      • Greg JohnstonG Greg Johnston

        @moss @sarae @awawawa Agree. If someone posts that they’re having a hard time, often I might not fully understand why or how and worry about commenting delicately. So I favorite the post to be supportive, to acknowledge their discomfort .

        SaraS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #20

        @GPJohnston @moss @awawawa yep exactly this

        "hang in there buddy times are tough but I am on Team You and hoping for the best"

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        • SaraS Sara

          seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

          folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

          it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

          kimaprK This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote last edited by
          #21

          Sara

          it’s true that it doesn’t particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we’re all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

          the funny thing about this: on the Pleroma/Misskey side of the network, favorites distribute posts across servers the same way boosts or replies do, they just don’t push the posts directly to followers’ Home Timelines — so they do increase distribution, but in a less obvious way (it’s more obvious on smaller servers like mine where any interaction could facilitate federation that would otherwise would not happen).

          it doesn’t really work that exact way on Mastodon though from what i’ve seen, as Mastodon doesn’t seem to federate favorites at all except to the post author.

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          • SaraS Sara

            @GPJohnston it doesn't feed an algo so that's a problem, I guess? idk it's a mindset that doesn't fit well with how I use the system

            Lee from ColoradoC This user is from outside of this forum
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            Lee from Colorado
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            @sarae @GPJohnston It's also policing behavior, telling other people how they should be behaving. I don't like it. Not one bit ...

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            • SaraS Sara

              seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

              folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

              it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

              Yjeva :tinoflag:Y This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote last edited by
              #23

              @sarae l have always thought it was like giving a friendly wave to someone on the street to let them know I have seen them even if I am not going to stop to chat right now.

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              • SaraS Sara

                seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                @sarae

                I'm a big fan of making my own rules. That's why I graduated childhood.

                🤡

                Starring = I like! (1/1 stars!)
                Boosting = I want everyone to see this.

                Do what you mean. Don't let the bastards grind you down.

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                • schratzeS schratze

                  @sarae literally who says this

                  I've never seen anyone make this recommendation

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                  Sara
                  wrote last edited by
                  #25

                  @schratze I'm glad to hear this hasn't been part of your experience, since I think it's a fairly unhealthy way to approach online interactions

                  not as unhealthy as rocking up in a total stranger's replies and attacking their credibility

                  but pretty unhealthy, nonetheless!

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                  • SaraS Sara

                    @schratze I'm glad to hear this hasn't been part of your experience, since I think it's a fairly unhealthy way to approach online interactions

                    not as unhealthy as rocking up in a total stranger's replies and attacking their credibility

                    but pretty unhealthy, nonetheless!

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                    #26

                    @sarae I did not intend to doubt your credibility. I apologize for that.

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                    • Lee from ColoradoC Lee from Colorado

                      @sarae @GPJohnston It's also policing behavior, telling other people how they should be behaving. I don't like it. Not one bit ...

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                      @colo_lee @GPJohnston I think people are often coming from a place of believing that others genuinely don't understand how things work, because they recently didn't understand themself

                      but in this case I'm like, you are correct that the tool doesn't do the thing a similarly-named tool did elsewhere

                      that is because you are now in a space designed by people who found that tool's behavior elsewhere fairly upsetting

                      (I notice the same thing about QGIS vs Esri products, in my work life)

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                      • SaraS Sara

                        seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                        folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                        it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                        @sarae

                        I'll usually favourite stuff to encourage people for things I don't want to actually post on my profile.

                        You created your first 3D chair in Blender? Fav. You did some pixel art I don't like but you're proud of your progress? Fav. You posted some political comment under a post with tons of replies? Fav.

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                        • schratzeS schratze

                          @sarae I did not intend to doubt your credibility. I apologize for that.

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                          Sara
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                          #29

                          @schratze thank you

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                          • SaraS Sara

                            @colo_lee @GPJohnston I think people are often coming from a place of believing that others genuinely don't understand how things work, because they recently didn't understand themself

                            but in this case I'm like, you are correct that the tool doesn't do the thing a similarly-named tool did elsewhere

                            that is because you are now in a space designed by people who found that tool's behavior elsewhere fairly upsetting

                            (I notice the same thing about QGIS vs Esri products, in my work life)

                            Lee from ColoradoC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Lee from Colorado
                            wrote last edited by
                            #30

                            @sarae @GPJohnston that is a generous read of the situation in your first sentence. I'll try to follow your example and share the assumption of good will ...

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                            • BeldarakB Beldarak

                              @sarae

                              I'll usually favourite stuff to encourage people for things I don't want to actually post on my profile.

                              You created your first 3D chair in Blender? Fav. You did some pixel art I don't like but you're proud of your progress? Fav. You posted some political comment under a post with tons of replies? Fav.

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                              wrote last edited by
                              #31

                              @Beldarak yeah, while I certainly recirculate some political stuff, on that esp I try to pace myself, because it can turn into such a barrage and I don't want to be like "here's a list of 47 horrible things I saw today" without chucking in some pictures of the cats or vegetables or a sunrise or whatever

                              it's easy to get pulled into that and I definitely do sometimes

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                              • Lisa 🦔M Lisa 🦔

                                @moss yeah, I definitely use it as a boop of friendly acknowledgement too. @sarae @awawawa

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                                @mycrowgirl @moss @sarae @awawawa I use it the same. Sometimes I don't have the spoons to reply to someone having a difficult time. I want them to know they aren't alone.

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                                • Lee from ColoradoC Lee from Colorado

                                  @sarae @GPJohnston that is a generous read of the situation in your first sentence. I'll try to follow your example and share the assumption of good will ...

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                                  #33

                                  @colo_lee @GPJohnston lol I get up every day and try to remind myself about that

                                  and sometimes it really is that way but daaaamn also people are people an upsetting amount of the time 😆

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                                  • SaraS Sara

                                    seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                    folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                    it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                                    @sarae 👍💯👍

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                                    • kimaprK kimapr

                                      Sara

                                      it’s true that it doesn’t particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we’re all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                                      the funny thing about this: on the Pleroma/Misskey side of the network, favorites distribute posts across servers the same way boosts or replies do, they just don’t push the posts directly to followers’ Home Timelines — so they do increase distribution, but in a less obvious way (it’s more obvious on smaller servers like mine where any interaction could facilitate federation that would otherwise would not happen).

                                      it doesn’t really work that exact way on Mastodon though from what i’ve seen, as Mastodon doesn’t seem to federate favorites at all except to the post author.

                                      SaraS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @kimapr oh interesting!

                                      and I think that for those of us who read "trending" on a Mastodon server (which I do sometimes if I've been afk all day and want to catch up on the "big ideas") favorites do influence visibility, but yeah, it's in a diffuse rather than a direct way

                                      (and see I boosted this because it's new-to-me information, lol)

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                                      • SaraS Sara

                                        @Beldarak yeah, while I certainly recirculate some political stuff, on that esp I try to pace myself, because it can turn into such a barrage and I don't want to be like "here's a list of 47 horrible things I saw today" without chucking in some pictures of the cats or vegetables or a sunrise or whatever

                                        it's easy to get pulled into that and I definitely do sometimes

                                        BeldarakB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Beldarak
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                                        #36

                                        @sarae

                                        Yeah, the no algorithm thing means you can be super annoying to your followers if you boost too much in one shot, you're right 🙂

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                                        • SaraS Sara

                                          seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                          folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                          it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                                          Grimoire BizarreG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Grimoire Bizarre
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                                          @sarae I see it as a way to tell the OP that I liked or otherwise appreciated the post, especially when I don't have a substantial reply to share!

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