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Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.

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  • Hannah GraceH Hannah Grace

    @lucien
    I know, I know...
    When I first started (a week ago), I struggled with understanding the federated nature.
    But I just put out a post to ask questions, and people explained things to me, and I was amazed with the awesome community out here!

    LucienL This user is from outside of this forum
    LucienL This user is from outside of this forum
    Lucien
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    #7

    @hpod16 I agree 😁 I ended up on Reddit rabbit holes and documentation pages to learn some things. This user type will however not search and if they can't ask their friends or family for help, they give up.

    Still, steps are taken to make this process more user friendly, which is great!

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    • LucienL Lucien

      @hpod16 the problem is that the same people that don't know will run into lots of UX issues when trying Fediverse. I know a few sadly...

      jz.tuskJ This user is from outside of this forum
      jz.tuskJ This user is from outside of this forum
      jz.tusk
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      #8

      @lucien @hpod16

      The Fediverse has a great collection of techies creating the protocols and infrastructure. What we're missing is the folks helping regular people use it.

      Hopefully folks like Hannah will start creating that layer. Not just through advocacy, but by hiring staff dedicated to helping people use it.

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      • jz.tuskJ jz.tusk

        @lucien @hpod16

        The Fediverse has a great collection of techies creating the protocols and infrastructure. What we're missing is the folks helping regular people use it.

        Hopefully folks like Hannah will start creating that layer. Not just through advocacy, but by hiring staff dedicated to helping people use it.

        Hannah GraceH This user is from outside of this forum
        Hannah GraceH This user is from outside of this forum
        Hannah Grace
        wrote last edited by
        #9

        @jztusk @lucien
        I think Hannahs like Hannah Aubry (@haubles) are key to bringing the most important aspect of the Fediverse front and centre: the community vibes. πŸ’œ 🐘

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        • Hannah GraceH Hannah Grace

          @jztusk @lucien
          I think Hannahs like Hannah Aubry (@haubles) are key to bringing the most important aspect of the Fediverse front and centre: the community vibes. πŸ’œ 🐘

          Bitslingers-R-UsA This user is from outside of this forum
          Bitslingers-R-UsA This user is from outside of this forum
          Bitslingers-R-Us
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          #10
          @jztusk @haubles @lucien @hpod16 ...and @hannah πŸ˜„
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          • Hannah GraceH Hannah Grace

            Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
            The European Commission likes to tell them. πŸ’œ πŸ˜‰

            marzuq mΓ€rzenbecherM This user is from outside of this forum
            marzuq mΓ€rzenbecherM This user is from outside of this forum
            marzuq mΓ€rzenbecher
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            #11

            @hpod16 😍

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            • LucienL Lucien

              @hpod16 I agree 😁 I ended up on Reddit rabbit holes and documentation pages to learn some things. This user type will however not search and if they can't ask their friends or family for help, they give up.

              Still, steps are taken to make this process more user friendly, which is great!

              Hannah GraceH This user is from outside of this forum
              Hannah GraceH This user is from outside of this forum
              Hannah Grace
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              #12

              @lucien also, you have to bear in mind that when we reply to public comments, it isn't just for the benefit of the one person who commented, but for anyone else who may be lurking in the comments sections.
              And: usually you have to hear about a new product a number of times before you try it out. So, many baby steps, one big goal.

              LucienL Corey Snipes πŸ•―οΈβ„οΈC 2 Replies Last reply
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              • Hannah GraceH Hannah Grace

                @lucien also, you have to bear in mind that when we reply to public comments, it isn't just for the benefit of the one person who commented, but for anyone else who may be lurking in the comments sections.
                And: usually you have to hear about a new product a number of times before you try it out. So, many baby steps, one big goal.

                LucienL This user is from outside of this forum
                LucienL This user is from outside of this forum
                Lucien
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                #13

                @hpod16 the world was not built in a day 😁 and there's certainly more interest from EU users these days, which is great!

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                • Bitslingers-R-UsA Bitslingers-R-Us
                  @jztusk @haubles @lucien @hpod16 ...and @hannah πŸ˜„
                  Hannah GraceH This user is from outside of this forum
                  Hannah GraceH This user is from outside of this forum
                  Hannah Grace
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                  #14

                  @AnachronistJohn @haubles @jztusk @hannah @lucien
                  Are we just tagging other Hannahs now? πŸ˜† πŸ’œ

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                  • Hannah GraceH Hannah Grace

                    Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
                    The European Commission likes to tell them. πŸ’œ πŸ˜‰

                    Robert "Szkodnix" :sharkey:S This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #15

                    @hpod16@eupolicy.social Oh, that's cool!

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                    • Robert "Szkodnix" :sharkey:S Robert "Szkodnix" :sharkey:

                      @hpod16@eupolicy.social Oh, that's cool!

                      Hannah GraceH This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Hannah Grace
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                      #16

                      @szkodnix any opportunity to promote Fedi
                      (Although on second reading I admit that could have been better phrased, they are asking for an EU-only platform and Fedi is global...)

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                      • Hannah GraceH Hannah Grace

                        @szkodnix any opportunity to promote Fedi
                        (Although on second reading I admit that could have been better phrased, they are asking for an EU-only platform and Fedi is global...)

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                        Robert "Szkodnix" :sharkey:S This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #17

                        @hpod16@eupolicy.social Well... Fedi servers can theoretically defederate with some non-EU servers but I'm not sure if that kind of server exists ​​

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                        • Hannah GraceH Hannah Grace

                          Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
                          The European Commission likes to tell them. πŸ’œ πŸ˜‰

                          emilianosandriE This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #18

                          @hpod16 Lately I'm not happy by much stuff EU championed, especially on the digital world but I love this! Especially because instead of trying and failing to build and push their own solution as governments tends to do they promote a grassroots movement.

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                          • jz.tuskJ jz.tusk

                            @lucien @hpod16

                            The Fediverse has a great collection of techies creating the protocols and infrastructure. What we're missing is the folks helping regular people use it.

                            Hopefully folks like Hannah will start creating that layer. Not just through advocacy, but by hiring staff dedicated to helping people use it.

                            Dentaku (Thomas Renger)D This user is from outside of this forum
                            Dentaku (Thomas Renger)D This user is from outside of this forum
                            Dentaku (Thomas Renger)
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                            #19

                            @jztusk @lucien @hpod16 You should get in touch with @FediTips.

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                            • Hannah GraceH This user is from outside of this forum
                              Hannah GraceH This user is from outside of this forum
                              Hannah Grace
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                              #20

                              @realcaseyrollins @lucien
                              for me, it took some time to get used to the federated nature.
                              For example, if I am on my EUPolicy server and I open a link to a mastodon.social profile, I won't be logged into my EUPolicy account and can't directly interact. I have to find them in my search bar. It's not a huge thing, but it lead to some hang-ups.
                              I was shameless enough to admit I was struggling with this, and people in the comments just walked me through the process. Good community here.

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                              • LucienL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @realcaseyrollins @hpod16 this are the top ones that I observed:
                                - Server selection onboarding. This is number one, you'll find plenty of posts online with confused users. Though Mastodon works on improving it soon it seems.
                                - Limited search and discovery (bottlenecked by the server)
                                - Broken uploads because of dead CDNs
                                - Confusing 'DM' feature

                                These all make sense to me and are ok, but casual Joe will struggle.

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                                • Hannah GraceH Hannah Grace

                                  Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
                                  The European Commission likes to tell them. πŸ’œ πŸ˜‰

                                  Miss WarcraftM This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Miss WarcraftM This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Miss Warcraft
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                                  @hpod16 The state of things. X has 650 Million Active users and Mastodon has 2.5 million. There is a reason. #Musk #Mastodon #SocialMedia

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                                  • Miss WarcraftM Miss Warcraft

                                    @hpod16 The state of things. X has 650 Million Active users and Mastodon has 2.5 million. There is a reason. #Musk #Mastodon #SocialMedia

                                    Hannah GraceH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Hannah Grace
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                                    #23

                                    @MissWarcraft I would say there are many reasons.
                                    I also think that Mastodon just doesn't have a large marketing budget, that would be useful to get people on board.
                                    That, and I think the initial step of choosing a server can be offputting

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                                    • LucienL Lucien

                                      @realcaseyrollins @hpod16 this are the top ones that I observed:
                                      - Server selection onboarding. This is number one, you'll find plenty of posts online with confused users. Though Mastodon works on improving it soon it seems.
                                      - Limited search and discovery (bottlenecked by the server)
                                      - Broken uploads because of dead CDNs
                                      - Confusing 'DM' feature

                                      These all make sense to me and are ok, but casual Joe will struggle.

                                      Hannah GraceH This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Hannah GraceH This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Hannah Grace
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                                      #24

                                      @lucien @realcaseyrollins
                                      Yeah, I have to say the "private mentions" are interesting. I like that I can take a discussion from public to private within the same thread.

                                      I like the private mentions, but they aren't DMs.
                                      And maybe it's ok not to have DMs for now?

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                                      • LucienL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Lucien
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                                        #25

                                        @realcaseyrollins @hpod16 they are indeed, or an equivalent of them. They're like any other post/reply, only restricted between the 2 (or more) participants and not e2e encrypted.

                                        The issue is that most users are looking for a 'DM' or 'Message' button and struggle to understand that this is how you 'privately' message someone.

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                                        • Hannah GraceH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @realcaseyrollins @lucien,
                                          Well, in my view, DMs would land in an inbox, and create a continuous back and forth between two people.
                                          If I stopped answered to your DMs, you would notice next time you opened your inbox.
                                          Private mentions happen in threads under posts. When I stop answering there, you probably wouldn't notice.
                                          I phrase it like this, because as a girl on the internet... I CAN get creeps in my DMs. So maybe I like that things are a bit more... decentralised here. Makes sense?

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