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Desperate to fight Steam, Epic burns money like firewood – but admits the Epic Games Store kind of sucks and "there's still a ton of work to be done" with "long overdue features"

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    e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Imagine how successful their store could have been if they had put all that money into improving the launcher and not antagonizing large parts of their customer base instead.

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    • S skunkworkz@lemmy.world

      Fortnite making them shit ton of money hand over fist is what’s holding them back probably. Much easier to just throw money at the store and buy exclusives and giveaways than taking away manpower from their money maker into a project that might make them money in the future. New hires that aren’t put on Fortnite or UE5 probably have a high opportunity cost in their business model.

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      overload@sopuli.xyz
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      True, but I would have thought they would be able to see the value in the future investment of the platform.

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      • M monkdervierte@lemmy.zip

        Just povide an API and let the nerds create your launcher for free, you’re obviously bad at it.

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        malix@sopuli.xyz
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        #13

        havent tried it, but lutris has epic support: https://lutris.net/games/epic-games-store/

        now… is it an improvement? again no idea because I don’t use epic

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        • malix@sopuli.xyzM malix@sopuli.xyz

          havent tried it, but lutris has epic support: https://lutris.net/games/epic-games-store/

          now… is it an improvement? again no idea because I don’t use epic

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          ironfacebuster@lemmy.world
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          As long as it doesn’t take a full minute to load any page and have 2 search bars that do different things in the game library, yes!

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            bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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            Well it’s okay it’s a new se-

            Wait, 7 years you say?

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            • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca

              Make small admission to hide a bit trick.

              They never care about having a good video game store, they want a good frontend for Fortnite.

              Epic is eyeing Roblox: any good game made, no matter where it is sold, will become endlessly cloned in Roblox… almost all the money spend in Roblox, remain in Roblox.

              A good game in Epic Game Store? Soon or later it will go on Steam, and Epic will lose some potential money, will go on PSN, and Epic will lose some potential money, will go on Xbox Store and, you guessed, Epic will lose some potential money.

              They are pushing hard for artist and coder to get stuck in the Fortnite “Roblox Wannabe” metaverse; that’s their only true goal. Lure developer, trap developers (I would say “Roblox lure child, trap child”, but it sound excessively weird)

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              zahille7@lemmy.world
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              It doesn’t sound weird when it’s true

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                True, but I would have thought they would be able to see the value in the future investment of the platform.

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                skunkworkz@lemmy.world
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                Yeah but they must appease shareholders with quarterly profits. Also Tim Sweeney wants to buy moar land.

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                  isekaihero@ani.social
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                  I just don’t see a place for it in the market. Steam is the big daddy DRM store. GOG is the old school DRM-free store. Itch is the small time indie dev store. Epic will never be a general storefront like one of the above. The only reason to use Epic is to play one of their exclusive games, and in that case they’re no different from any company that refuses to multiplat their games. Blizzard selling their games on the Blizzard store or Nintendo selling their games on the Nintendo store. It just comes down to wanting a larger cut of the sales, instead of paying someone else to use their storefront.

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                  • G graphy@lemmy.world

                    The Epic store sucks so much that I’ve gotta look the game up on Steam just to tell what I’m supposed to be looking at on Epic.

                    Seriously, look up any game on the EGS right now and you’ve gotta scroll past a mountain of bullshit just to get a description of the game. It kinda reminds me of those really shitty cooking sites with all the fluff.

                    Hah you can report a game before you even get a description or a screenshot from the game

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                    samus12345@sh.itjust.works
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                    It’s better on desktop. The thing they show first on mobile is the sidebar there.

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                    • O overload@sopuli.xyz

                      It’s insanity. They do have all the money in the world so I’m happy to claim free games. Never going to buy there unless the game will never come to steam (Alana Wake 2 being the one exception).

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                      Ulrich
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                      #20

                      I got so tired of being logged out and having to jump through so many captcha hoops to get back in that I don’t even claim the free games anymore.

                      Logging into Steam is crazy easy and I never get logged out.

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                      • O overload@sopuli.xyz

                        It’s insanity. They do have all the money in the world so I’m happy to claim free games. Never going to buy there unless the game will never come to steam (Alana Wake 2 being the one exception).

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                        pogodem0n@lemmy.world
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                        I don’t think Alan Wake II will ever come to Steam. It is published by Epic Games.

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                        • N neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                          Even with the free games you don’t always get a picture of video of actual gameplay. Just marketing bs.

                          Like, I have no idea what this game is about.

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                          Ulrich
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                          This is the experience of every game in every store. I don’t know how anyone chooses a game from the store.

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                            I just don’t see a place for it in the market. Steam is the big daddy DRM store. GOG is the old school DRM-free store. Itch is the small time indie dev store. Epic will never be a general storefront like one of the above. The only reason to use Epic is to play one of their exclusive games, and in that case they’re no different from any company that refuses to multiplat their games. Blizzard selling their games on the Blizzard store or Nintendo selling their games on the Nintendo store. It just comes down to wanting a larger cut of the sales, instead of paying someone else to use their storefront.

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                            Ulrich
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                            It just comes down to wanting a larger cut of the sales

                            I think it’s more about advertising. The launcher for these companies could be super simple but instead it’s a fuckin billboard with rampant pop-up notifications.

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                              binturong@lemmy.ca
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                              Better not miss if you’re gonna come swing at the great. As a former Rocket League enjoyer who had Epic games shit up the game I bought BEFORE they got the rights; I say it’s physically impossible for Epic to fuck far enough off, but they can fuck themselves all the way to the event horizon of off and stare whistfully at the off that cannot be fucked. Forever.

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                                ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca
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                                It’s a store, I don’t get it

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                                  commander@lemmy.world
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                                  They released EGS Android game store without a library view, still none. They’re really bad at making a good first impression. PC it’s been 7 years. 7 years of bad impressions

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                                    coacoamelky@lemm.ee
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                                    Well they released a crappy store to compete in a market with well made products and services. Oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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                                      blametheantifa@lemmy.world
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                                      I like the idea of competition, but there is no excuse for the Epic Game Store being so awful. It could have been rebuilt from the ground up many times over in the years since it launched. It’s abundantly clear that Sweeney has no intention of improving it or giving consumers the features they actually want.

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                                        catloaf@lemm.ee
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                                        If they’re so desperate, have they tried making a competitive product?

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                                        • UlrichU Ulrich

                                          It just comes down to wanting a larger cut of the sales

                                          I think it’s more about advertising. The launcher for these companies could be super simple but instead it’s a fuckin billboard with rampant pop-up notifications.

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                                          ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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                                          Also even if you install these launchers for the one game that forces it and never touch them again, they’re still sitting quietly in the background uploading and selling all your usage information and browser history and gaming history.

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