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Alternative to Steam Link/Sunshine?

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  • UlrichU Ulrich

    I did see that (and even commented on it) but I’m not nearly smart enough for that.

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    mighty_bombero@feddit.org
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    #11

    Maybe you have to wait for Artemis/Apollo becoming available for Linux. They seem to be looking into Linux support.

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    • abeltramo@lemmy.worldA abeltramo@lemmy.world

      Shameless plug: I’m the main developer of Games on Whales.

      I’ve built Wolf exactly because of those shortcomings of other solutions: it runs fully headless, spins up virtual Wayland desktops that matches the resolution/FPS that’s requested from the clients and everything runs in Docker so it doesn’t pollute your host OS (just your HDD).

      I’m currently working on a massive performance improvement in this PR if you’d like to try it, I’d suggest to pick that tag.

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      mighty_bombero@feddit.org
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      I really love your project but couldn’t get it up and running on Bazzite due to only supporting podman out of the box. Do you know of a good guide for Bazzite?

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      • abeltramo@lemmy.worldA abeltramo@lemmy.world

        Shameless plug: I’m the main developer of Games on Whales.

        I’ve built Wolf exactly because of those shortcomings of other solutions: it runs fully headless, spins up virtual Wayland desktops that matches the resolution/FPS that’s requested from the clients and everything runs in Docker so it doesn’t pollute your host OS (just your HDD).

        I’m currently working on a massive performance improvement in this PR if you’d like to try it, I’d suggest to pick that tag.

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        zerohora@lemmy.ml
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        #13

        Games on Whales… the naming department was on-fire this day.

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        • W wccrawford@discuss.online

          Parsec? It has virtual monitors.

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          chronographs@lemmy.zip
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          #14

          That’s what I use

          Edit: I see you’re using linux though, I can’t really speak to its performance there as I only use it for windows

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          • M mighty_bombero@feddit.org

            I really love your project but couldn’t get it up and running on Bazzite due to only supporting podman out of the box. Do you know of a good guide for Bazzite?

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            abeltramo@lemmy.world
            wrote on last edited by abeltramo@lemmy.world
            #15

            We support podman, you just have to enable the Podman System Service so that Wolf can use that socket to spin up and down additional containers.

            I really should add a section in the quickstart guide…

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            • UlrichU Ulrich

              That’s very cool. Thank you for creating this and for sharing it here. No shame necessary as it seems to fulfill exactly what I asked for.

              Unfortunately Docker containers and terminal coding is a bit over my head.

              Also YT doesn’t like to let me watch their videos so if you uploaded them somewhere else for sharing, that would be cool.

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              abeltramo@lemmy.world
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              #16

              Unfortunately Docker containers and terminal coding is a bit over my head.

              That’s absolutely understandable, getting comfortable with the terminal is definitely the first step to be able to shove that PC in a closet. 😉

              Ideally, in the meantime I’ll have made all this stack even easier to run!

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              • zerohora@lemmy.mlZ zerohora@lemmy.ml

                Games on Whales… the naming department was on-fire this day.

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                abeltramo@lemmy.world
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                #17

                Probably the only thing I wouldn’t change in the project after all these years!

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                • M mighty_bombero@feddit.org

                  Maybe you have to wait for Artemis/Apollo becoming available for Linux. They seem to be looking into Linux support.

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                  Ulrich
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                  #18

                  Interesting, I’ll keep an eye on that, thanks for the heads up.

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                  • UlrichU Ulrich

                    I have an exclusive gaming PC. Ideally what I’d like to do is shove it in a closet or other vacant room to contain the heat and then stream games over LAN.

                    The problem with existing solutions is:

                    1. They need a monitor connected
                    2. The monitor to be powered on
                    3. They don’t support varying refresh rates/resolutions. Only whatever is displayed on the connected monitor. I want to play on my 4k/60Hz TV in the living room for AAA visual spectacle games that work best with controller, and the 1440p/120Hz display in my office for FPS or otherwise fast-moving games that demand KBM, and the 5k monitor for photo/video editing.
                    4. I haven’t had much success getting these working at all. Red screens, 1/4 screens, image noise, etc.

                    They’re literally just mirroring the screen of the connected display.

                    I really don’t want to have to buy a dedicated PC for each use-case. Does a solution like this exist? What are their pros and cons? Preferably something that doesn’t require a degree in software engineering.

                    Currently I am using Bazzite OS with 5700x + 6800xt, if that matters.

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                    snoopey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    #19

                    This does everything you need with a super simple setup, but all the screen trickery is Windows only unfortunately. Still I can heartily recommend it: https://github.com/ClassicOldSong/Apollo

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                    • S snoopey@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                      This does everything you need with a super simple setup, but all the screen trickery is Windows only unfortunately. Still I can heartily recommend it: https://github.com/ClassicOldSong/Apollo

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                      Ulrich
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                      #20

                      It’s not currently working for Linux, unfortunately

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                      • UlrichU Ulrich

                        I have an exclusive gaming PC. Ideally what I’d like to do is shove it in a closet or other vacant room to contain the heat and then stream games over LAN.

                        The problem with existing solutions is:

                        1. They need a monitor connected
                        2. The monitor to be powered on
                        3. They don’t support varying refresh rates/resolutions. Only whatever is displayed on the connected monitor. I want to play on my 4k/60Hz TV in the living room for AAA visual spectacle games that work best with controller, and the 1440p/120Hz display in my office for FPS or otherwise fast-moving games that demand KBM, and the 5k monitor for photo/video editing.
                        4. I haven’t had much success getting these working at all. Red screens, 1/4 screens, image noise, etc.

                        They’re literally just mirroring the screen of the connected display.

                        I really don’t want to have to buy a dedicated PC for each use-case. Does a solution like this exist? What are their pros and cons? Preferably something that doesn’t require a degree in software engineering.

                        Currently I am using Bazzite OS with 5700x + 6800xt, if that matters.

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                        wrote on last edited by kolanaki@pawb.social
                        #21

                        Needs a monitor that is also turned on

                        What? You don’t need a monitor to use Steam Link. 🤨

                        Is this something specific to Linux?

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                          Needs a monitor that is also turned on

                          What? You don’t need a monitor to use Steam Link. 🤨

                          Is this something specific to Linux?

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                          Ulrich
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                          #22

                          Yes you do

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                          • UlrichU Ulrich

                            Yes you do

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                            Unless it’s a limitation specific to Linux, or you’re talking about the physical Steam Link and not the app: No you don’t.

                            I just unplugged my monitor from my PC, fired up the Steam Link app and started Elden Ring no problem.

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                              Unless it’s a limitation specific to Linux, or you’re talking about the physical Steam Link and not the app: No you don’t.

                              I just unplugged my monitor from my PC, fired up the Steam Link app and started Elden Ring no problem.

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                              Ulrich
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                              #24

                              I’m talking about the host machine.

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                              • UlrichU Ulrich

                                I’m talking about the host machine.

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                                Yes, that is obvious.

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                                • abeltramo@lemmy.worldA abeltramo@lemmy.world

                                  We support podman, you just have to enable the Podman System Service so that Wolf can use that socket to spin up and down additional containers.

                                  I really should add a section in the quickstart guide…

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                                  mighty_bombero@feddit.org
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                                  Many thanks, I will look into this.

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                                  • S skozzii@lemmy.ca

                                    I’m not sure if I am just picky but I have literally tried everything on brand new wifi 6 and access points and it just never is that perfect feeling, I always notice a tiny bit of input lag and I’m not sure if it’s possible to fix it at all. Playable, but I just can’t do it - miles ahead of cloud gaming still.

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                                    ryathal@sh.itjust.works
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                                    I found steam link to be heavily game dependant because of the input lag. It’s not a great solution for fps games, but anything that didn’t require fast reactions was fine.

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                                    • UlrichU Ulrich

                                      I’m talking about the host machine.

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                                      kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                      How… how else would this be referred to? What would be the point in starting it headless on the client side?

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                                        How… how else would this be referred to? What would be the point in starting it headless on the client side?

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                                        Ulrich
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                                        #29

                                        I have no idea. But they seem to be confused in some way.

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                                        • C chronographs@lemmy.zip

                                          That’s what I use

                                          Edit: I see you’re using linux though, I can’t really speak to its performance there as I only use it for windows

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                                          omega_x3@lemmy.world
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                                          Can’t setup a parsec host on Linux only a client.

                                          Some motherboards lock out video output without something plugged in but never found one that did it with a dedicated video card. You can always just plug in an HDMI dummy plug to get around an expected display requirement.

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