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Mastercard, Visa Under Fire As Petition To 'Not Police' Legal Content Blows Up [petition on Change.org, currently 203K signatures] [direct link in comments]

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  • C coolmatt@lemmy.ca

    Well not sure about you, but I’d like to agree rape and incest is pretty fucked up so yeah it probably should be removed, so why should people have to see that on their computers in the first place?

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    thermal_shock
    wrote last edited by thermal_shock@lemmy.world
    #45

    What about the 1000 rape/SA movies? Should those be removed too? I love a good revenge movie where the women come back and fuck up their attackers.

    I’ve never played any games like the ones removed, but the principal still stands, when they decide people shouldn’t buy or own something, they just block it?

    What happens when they decide anything homosexual should be blocked? Or anything non Christian? Or anything regarding BLM? who the fuck are they to say ANYTHING at all?

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    • T thermal_shock

      What about the 1000 rape/SA movies? Should those be removed too? I love a good revenge movie where the women come back and fuck up their attackers.

      I’ve never played any games like the ones removed, but the principal still stands, when they decide people shouldn’t buy or own something, they just block it?

      What happens when they decide anything homosexual should be blocked? Or anything non Christian? Or anything regarding BLM? who the fuck are they to say ANYTHING at all?

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      coolmatt@lemmy.ca
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      I do see a difference between it being part of a storyline that gives you a justice boner, and something actually glorifying the thing. I’ve seen lots of movies and shows where someone gets raped and the rapist gets what they deserve. I have not seen any rape games yet, but the incest games I’ve seen where the point of the game is to fuck your huge tittied mother

      LGBT, homosexual, non-christian, I did not initially see as part of the subject, but I get what you’re saying

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      • Nik282000N Nik282000

        sometiems you do see stuff you didn’t want to without seeking it out

        I certainly didn’t want to see you on the internet today but I’m not calling to cancel Lemmy.

        The reason I know about incest games existing on steam is because it showed up on my recommendations or something once, without me actively seeking it out.

        Only if you clicked the little checkbox to enable sexually explicit games to be recommended.

        I guess just don’t see how they’d think “ok we got rid of the rape and incest, now let’s go Nazi on everything else”

        It doesn’t have to be full Nazi, a right wing CEO could decide that all trans content is immoral and should not be sold. This wingnut Australian group already has their sights set on non-hetero games.

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        coolmatt@lemmy.ca
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        #47

        I’m sorry you didn’t want to see someone asking a question. You didn’t have to answer it but thank you for your answer

        I don’t remember clicking such a checkbox, but the last thing I’d expect to see regarding sexually explicit content is stuff like rape or incest.

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        • I ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml

          Because they didn’t just stop there when they removed from all NSFW content from itch.io

          It’s not just a one-and-done thing, it will keep escalating.

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          snooggums
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          It is an actual slippery slope and not a fallacy because we have been down the censorship road many, many times.

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          • ikidd@lemmy.worldI ikidd@lemmy.world

            A petition is useless. There needs to be an opposing organization whose members do exactly what these other asshats to, and call and write letters to the payment processors threatening boycotts and publicity.

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            Kindness is Punk
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            #49

            I hope interac uses this opening, I already primarily use them but they don’t do credit.

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            • C coolmatt@lemmy.ca

              Okay I’m stupid.

              What’s wrong with removing rape and incest games from Steam?

              Edit: Thank you all for your answers, I was nervous to ask the question incase I would come off as a troll or ass hole or something and piss everyone off. They are very informative and have given me much to read and think about.

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              Captain Aggravated
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              #50

              First question: Why is it okay for payment processors to conduct censorship of any kind? Why is it their place to decide what is and is not buyable?

              Second question: What’s the next thing some right-wing death cult is going to pressure them into censoring? Anything addressing minority rights? Any adult content at all? What about sex toys, birth control drugs, abortion drugs, hormone treatments? What else are they going to cull from society by saying “Get rid of this or we’re not going to allow you to do any business in the world?”

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              • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca

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                MasterCard and Visa are interfering with legal entertainment — often under pressure from advocacy groups who want to censor what they deem "Problematic". We demand an end to this censorship of fiction, and the right to choose the stories we enjoy without moral policing.  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ MasterCard and Visa have increasingly used

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                The petition addressed that MasterCard and Visa must stop censoring legal fictional content that complies with the law and platform standards.

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                Pxtl
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                #51

                So did did Visa and MasterCard ever stop payments to… like… Infowars? I know PayPal went after them but the credit card networks are a level even higher.

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                • Nik282000N Nik282000

                  Crypto was supposed to do this but it’s too fractured and volatile now.

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                  saledovil@sh.itjust.works
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                  It’s also too awkward to actually use.

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                  • Nik282000N Nik282000

                    Crypto was supposed to do this but it’s too fractured and volatile now.

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                    sequence5666@lemmy.world
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                    Rupay and UPI are good alternatives.

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                      sunshinejogger@feddit.org
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                      I can’t sign it. It tell me my perfectly valid mail address is not valid

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                      • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca

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                        MasterCard and Visa are interfering with legal entertainment — often under pressure from advocacy groups who want to censor what they deem "Problematic". We demand an end to this censorship of fiction, and the right to choose the stories we enjoy without moral policing.  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ MasterCard and Visa have increasingly used

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                        PhilMcGraw
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                        I was always a bit “Why would I bother with crypto instead of fiat?”, I just got an answer. Hopefully Steam/big names affected by this adopt crypto payment processors.

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                        • T thermal_shock

                          Hot sauce has a HUGE market, large variety of clients and brands, I’m sure one had the word “sex” or “boob”, something like that that made them block it. Pretty sad.

                          It’s funny they want us to BUY games and not pirate, then literally remove any method to purchase it. Just stay on your ship in the seas.

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                          bronzebeard@lemmy.zip
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                          #56

                          Yeah, a lot of hot sauces have extremely graphic names. Probably more along the lines of nonconsensual backdoor usage.

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                          • SalS Sal

                            They only took 1000 calls from an Australian hate group to start censoring shit… and every single post on bluesky about calling/contacting them to stop doing this has over 20k notes. They’re beyond cooked.

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                            Jerkface (any/all)
                            wrote last edited by jerkface@lemmy.ca
                            #57

                            Not only 1000 calls. 1000 calls, plus a long standing and often previously acted upon stick-up-the-ass opposition to sex. This is far from the first incident. They were predisposed to the hate group’s message, and perhaps chose to use them as scapegoats for their own decisions.

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