@evacide
10 years ago at Trump 1.0 protests was the first time I saw the "Abolish ICE" slogan on signs. I didn't understand, so I read an immigration attorney's blog and the subject and thought, "Oh, okay, that makes sense. Abolish ICE." I was not what you'd call a leftist, just vehemently anti-Trump in general. But yes, it definitely wasn't a mainstream opinion back then.

It sure is now! Besides this, at protests we get all kinds of education about pre-existing problems with ICE.

@evacide it feels weird to admit that there’s a silver lining to this horror, but you’re right.

I have been in awe of public opinion FINALLY turning and recognizing how broken, unfair cruel, and undemocratic the US immigration system is.

Legal immigration pathways have been cut and made harder or impossible year over year while the people just trying to find safety and contribute to communities have been punished and dehumanized.

We’re dealing with the legacy of terrorism fear-mongering after 9/11 that built on over a century of explicitly racist immigration policies.

But so few people paid attention to this or the amount of legal loopholes in immigration law that could be used to terrorize innocent people en masse.

I hate that we had to experience a government actually taking advantage of all those loopholes before the population started recognizing that something needs to change. But at least that shift in public consciousness is finally happening.

@evacide

Abolish the organisation.

Jail all of them for murder. With the masks, you don't know which of them did it.

Jail the "president" who controls this murderous gang.

@evacide Abolish ICE is too wishy-washy. I would much prefer to see calls to *prosecute* ICE.

@bob_zim
@evacide

Professional Cadillac liberal Tim Walz threw that option away at his press conference.

There is no criminal immunity for immigration enforcement. They have to follow state criminal law. A former federal running mate chose to not run again then chose to capitulate when he had to do his job. What were you expecting from him?

@evacide fr. I saw the headline and I was like, ok, what no-name substack is this....

@evacide i think the issue must be cut more deep.

Us citizen must abolish all Insitution and rebuild them from the gound to prevent this to appen again.

If not it's just waiting this happen again (if you manage to prevent trump from becoming president for life, because seen from here with only 2 no king in a year, it's become more and more likely).

@evacide They are like the IDF using the same techniques;, must be abolished and prosecuted.

@evacide
I want way more than impeachment. This is happening because feckless democrats let everything Trump and his minions did last time slide. Trump, Noem, and all the rest at the top need to be in prison - because they have broken our laws and violated our Constitution and because if we don't they (#GOP) will continue to be emboldened to continue to break our laws and violate our Constitution.
And honestly, it is past time to abolish and ban the #GOP. Other countries have banned political parties that were a threat to their existence and I believe the entire @GOP has clearly proven they are a threat to our country's existence.

@evacide Read some post on FB making fun of this #murder. And they got likes....USA, you got a problem. A mother got killed by US gestapo and some ugly americans support it. Including the MAGA goverment. Everything is so wrong. R.I.P

@evacide Even a simple upgrade to making Behavioral Science core education, seems further and further from reach.

@evacide I prefer #AbolishDHS but #AbolishICE is an acceptable short-term compromise.

@evacide Techdirt's been a consistent critic of ICE, though during the Obama years they focused more on ICE's abuse of copyright enforcement than its abuse of people with brown skin.

Tim Cushing's their main guy covering abusive behavior by law enforcement; here's the first Trump-era post I can find about ICE abusing immigrants, from May 2017:

https://www.techdirt.com/2017/05/23/ice-using-stingrays-to-track-down-immigrants-because-course-it-is/

First example I can find of them using the phrase "abolish ICE" is from 2024, but I think the sentiment was always there.

@Thad I am talking very specifically about "abolish ICE" here.

@evacide not only abolish, But ALL members of ICE should go immediately to trial.

@evacide tech dirt is certainly special. They spelt it out didn’t they that they were a political blog now that one time long ago.

Why Techdirt Is Now A Democracy Blog (Whether We Like It Or Not)

While political reporters are still doing their view-from-nowhere "Democrats say this, Republicans say that" dance, tech and legal journalists have been watching an unfortunately recognizable plan unfold — a playbook we’re all too familiar with. We've seen how technology can be wielded to consolidate power, how institutional guardrails can be circumvented through technical and legal…

Techdirt (www.techdirt.com)

@OliviaVespera To be clear, I am now and have always been a Mike Masnick fangirl. I am very impressed with the way that Techdirt has stepped up to meet this moment, especially when so many mainstream publications have not.

@evacide apparently it's already too late

Portland shooting latest: Police chief alleges gang 'nexus;' 2 shot remain in hospital

Two people were injured in a shooting involving a federal agent in Portland, Oregon, on Thursday, authorities said.

ABC News (abcnews.go.com)

@evacide I remember reading a lot of news about Google employees' internal protests against contracts with ICE and DHS, I think, 10+ years ago, deeply surprised that such talented and lucky software people escalate such seemingly nuanced issues out of their professional lane (as perceived by foreigner).