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  • Charlie O’HaraA This user is from outside of this forum
    Charlie O’HaraA This user is from outside of this forum
    Charlie O’Hara
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    #4

    @mullvadnet say what? Tell us more of this more please!

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    • Mullvad VPNM Mullvad VPN

      The United Kingdom is escalating its censorship and mass surveillance. When Mullvad tried to criticise this with the TV ad “And Then?”, it was banned on British television.

      leah & flutters & nose, oh my!M This user is from outside of this forum
      leah & flutters & nose, oh my!M This user is from outside of this forum
      leah & flutters & nose, oh my!
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      #5

      @mullvadnet hold up! Mullvad wasn't censored. that word has a particular, specific meaning, and unlike most private organisations that might deny someone a platform, Clearcast has a judicial review ruling saying that it's a private, non-governmental body:

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      had Mullvad's ad been banned by the ASA, that would have been censorship - and indeed, since the ASA also monitors billboard ads, that might still happen... but what happened here was that nobody who broadcast the ads would broadcast Mullvad's, which is probably not terribly surprising given that they're all owned by companies with a vested interest in not letting VPNs get a foothold.

      moreover, it was just that ad that was rejected. not Mullvad as a whole.

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      And then? And then Mullvad was censored in the UK.

      UK ramps up censorship & surveillance. Mullvad's critical TV ad "And Then?" was banned. Watch it here.

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      • RetR Ret

        @mullvadnet do you have some more information about the "ban" here? I'd like to write to the ASA to complain about that decision if possible. I can't see a ruling entry for it on the ASA site.

        leah & flutters & nose, oh my!M This user is from outside of this forum
        leah & flutters & nose, oh my!M This user is from outside of this forum
        leah & flutters & nose, oh my!
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        #6

        @ret @mullvadnet Mullvad's own account is here.

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        And then? And then Mullvad was censored in the UK.

        UK ramps up censorship & surveillance. Mullvad's critical TV ad "And Then?" was banned. Watch it here.

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        there's nothing to complain to the ASA about - the ad was rejected by the TV companies' own (private, joint-owned) pre-vetting body, and mainly on grounds of quality and clarity.

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        • leah & flutters & nose, oh my!M leah & flutters & nose, oh my!

          @ret @mullvadnet Mullvad's own account is here.

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          And then? And then Mullvad was censored in the UK.

          UK ramps up censorship & surveillance. Mullvad's critical TV ad "And Then?" was banned. Watch it here.

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          there's nothing to complain to the ASA about - the ad was rejected by the TV companies' own (private, joint-owned) pre-vetting body, and mainly on grounds of quality and clarity.

          RetR This user is from outside of this forum
          RetR This user is from outside of this forum
          Ret
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          #7

          @mewsleah thanks, I hadn't seen that. Disappointing.

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          • Mullvad VPNM Mullvad VPN

            The United Kingdom is escalating its censorship and mass surveillance. When Mullvad tried to criticise this with the TV ad “And Then?”, it was banned on British television.

            Eugen RochkoG This user is from outside of this forum
            Eugen RochkoG This user is from outside of this forum
            Eugen Rochko
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            #8

            @mullvadnet It's a great ad.

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            • Mullvad VPNM Mullvad VPN

              The United Kingdom is escalating its censorship and mass surveillance. When Mullvad tried to criticise this with the TV ad “And Then?”, it was banned on British television.

              retechR This user is from outside of this forum
              retechR This user is from outside of this forum
              retech
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              @mullvadnet WOW. Guess they're using 1984 as a playbook and not a warning.

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              • Mullvad VPNM Mullvad VPN

                The United Kingdom is escalating its censorship and mass surveillance. When Mullvad tried to criticise this with the TV ad “And Then?”, it was banned on British television.

                Handler SkylerS This user is from outside of this forum
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                Handler Skyler
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                @mullvadnet Strong words for neither being Banned nor Censored

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                • Mullvad VPNM Mullvad VPN

                  The United Kingdom is escalating its censorship and mass surveillance. When Mullvad tried to criticise this with the TV ad “And Then?”, it was banned on British television.

                  Jörg SeidelL This user is from outside of this forum
                  Jörg SeidelL This user is from outside of this forum
                  Jörg Seidel
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                  #11

                  @mullvadnet
                  I like the ad. Consider uploading it to peertube so we can share it here?

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                  • Jörg SeidelL Jörg Seidel

                    @mullvadnet
                    I like the ad. Consider uploading it to peertube so we can share it here?

                    JB :mullvadvpn:J This user is from outside of this forum
                    JB :mullvadvpn:J This user is from outside of this forum
                    JB :mullvadvpn:
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                    #12

                    @lostgen

                    Which instance would you suggest? I looked at Odysee but I am not sure it is a good alternative to YT.

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                    • Eugen RochkoG Eugen Rochko

                      @mullvadnet It's a great ad.

                      JB :mullvadvpn:J This user is from outside of this forum
                      JB :mullvadvpn:J This user is from outside of this forum
                      JB :mullvadvpn:
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                      @Gargron

                      and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then and then

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                      • Mullvad VPNM Mullvad VPN

                        The United Kingdom is escalating its censorship and mass surveillance. When Mullvad tried to criticise this with the TV ad “And Then?”, it was banned on British television.

                        LightL This user is from outside of this forum
                        LightL This user is from outside of this forum
                        Light
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                        #14

                        @mullvadnet
                        > the TV ad “And Then?” […] was banned on British television.
                        Source?

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                        • JB :mullvadvpn:J JB :mullvadvpn:

                          @lostgen

                          Which instance would you suggest? I looked at Odysee but I am not sure it is a good alternative to YT.

                          Jörg SeidelL This user is from outside of this forum
                          Jörg SeidelL This user is from outside of this forum
                          Jörg Seidel
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                          @jbjrkng
                          I have no experience with public instances unfortunately.

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                          • Charlie O’HaraA Charlie O’Hara

                            @mullvadnet say what? Tell us more of this more please!

                            Charlie O’HaraA This user is from outside of this forum
                            Charlie O’HaraA This user is from outside of this forum
                            Charlie O’Hara
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                            #16

                            @mullvadnet ah, so reading more it wasn’t accepted by the TV advertisers. Which is not exactly surprising given they hate technology like VPNs. I know you wanted to make a stink but this just looks silly.

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                            • RetR Ret

                              @mullvadnet do you have some more information about the "ban" here? I'd like to write to the ASA to complain about that decision if possible. I can't see a ruling entry for it on the ASA site.

                              Simon newslttrs.comS This user is from outside of this forum
                              Simon newslttrs.comS This user is from outside of this forum
                              Simon newslttrs.com
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                              @ret @mullvadnet it wasn’t banned. A private company didn’t clear it for broadcast. Mullvad didn’t try to make it compliant because it suits their commercial interests to claim it was banned. They get more free publicity this way and get to present themselves as the underdog. https://mullvad.net/en/and-then/uk

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                              • Mullvad VPNM Mullvad VPN

                                The United Kingdom is escalating its censorship and mass surveillance. When Mullvad tried to criticise this with the TV ad “And Then?”, it was banned on British television.

                                Kierkegaanks regretfullyK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Kierkegaanks regretfully
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                                #18

                                @mullvadnet i saw this ad at least a dozen times on tv in sweden over christmas. Not sure if my mom got the message

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                                • Mullvad VPNM Mullvad VPN

                                  The United Kingdom is escalating its censorship and mass surveillance. When Mullvad tried to criticise this with the TV ad “And Then?”, it was banned on British television.

                                  EyeG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Eye
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                                  #19

                                  @mullvadnet

                                  File won't play, says it's corrupt.

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                                  • LightL Light

                                    @mullvadnet
                                    > the TV ad “And Then?” […] was banned on British television.
                                    Source?

                                    LightL This user is from outside of this forum
                                    LightL This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Light
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                                    @mullvadnet
                                    For example, a public statement from the agency responsible

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                                    • Mullvad VPNM Mullvad VPN

                                      The United Kingdom is escalating its censorship and mass surveillance. When Mullvad tried to criticise this with the TV ad “And Then?”, it was banned on British television.

                                      Jack Yan (甄爵恩)J This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Jack Yan (甄爵恩)J This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Jack Yan (甄爵恩)
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                                      #21

                                      @mullvadnet If this passes our checks, weʼd be delighted to show it on our little corner of the web.

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                                      • Mullvad VPNM Mullvad VPN

                                        The United Kingdom is escalating its censorship and mass surveillance. When Mullvad tried to criticise this with the TV ad “And Then?”, it was banned on British television.

                                        Bitslingers-R-UsA This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Bitslingers-R-UsA This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Bitslingers-R-Us
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                                        #22
                                        @mullvadnet Was a reason given why it was banned? I’m so curious how they’d rationalize that.

                                        Good ad, BTW.
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                                        • Mullvad VPNM Mullvad VPN

                                          The United Kingdom is escalating its censorship and mass surveillance. When Mullvad tried to criticise this with the TV ad “And Then?”, it was banned on British television.

                                          Serghei PogorS This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Serghei PogorS This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Serghei Pogor
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                                          #23

                                          Every time a government says 'we need backdoor access for safety' what they actually mean is 'we want to break encryption for everyone including the criminals we claim to be targeting'

                                          Because here is the thing: backdoors do not check IDs. If the UK government can use it, so can hackers, hostile states, and the exact people they say they want to stop

                                          You cannot build a door that only opens for the good guys. That is not how doors work

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