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"AI" is rapidly becoming synonymous with "poor quality crap"

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  • Fi 🏳️‍⚧️M Fi 🏳️‍⚧️

    But you don't -need- a premiere, top of the line massive datacenter-driven "companion" AI for what amounts to spicy autocomplete.

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    Fi 🏳️‍⚧️
    wrote on last edited by
    #10

    The other people benefitting are using it to creep on people by generating lewds, and -those- guys are going to keep paying no matter how high you crank the price.

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    • Fi 🏳️‍⚧️M Fi 🏳️‍⚧️

      The other people benefitting are using it to creep on people by generating lewds, and -those- guys are going to keep paying no matter how high you crank the price.

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      Fi 🏳️‍⚧️
      wrote on last edited by
      #11

      So the ai companies, instead of marketing this as a coding -assistant- (rather than -replacement-) and making it expensive, got greedy and marketed it as "fire all your employees; everyone uses this for everything now" and priced it for mass adoption.

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      • Fi 🏳️‍⚧️M Fi 🏳️‍⚧️

        So the ai companies, instead of marketing this as a coding -assistant- (rather than -replacement-) and making it expensive, got greedy and marketed it as "fire all your employees; everyone uses this for everything now" and priced it for mass adoption.

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        wrote on last edited by
        #12

        And now everything is cheap crap, and now you -can't- raise the price, and now you're stuck running very large expensive datacenters with zero resale value and your food supply to train the models on is gone and most of the people actually using your product are only doing so thru psychological manipulation - real fucking healthy way to keep a customer base, huh - or thru mandates from toxic management, so your remaining customer base is slowly burning out and becoming less functionally able -to- use your product.

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        • Fi 🏳️‍⚧️M Fi 🏳️‍⚧️

          And now everything is cheap crap, and now you -can't- raise the price, and now you're stuck running very large expensive datacenters with zero resale value and your food supply to train the models on is gone and most of the people actually using your product are only doing so thru psychological manipulation - real fucking healthy way to keep a customer base, huh - or thru mandates from toxic management, so your remaining customer base is slowly burning out and becoming less functionally able -to- use your product.

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          wrote on last edited by
          #13

          So anyway I figure, yeah, we're stuck with this toxic sludge but at least it'll be mostly malware hijacking graphics cards and other small model shenanigans in a few years.

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          • Fi 🏳️‍⚧️M Fi 🏳️‍⚧️

            So anyway I figure, yeah, we're stuck with this toxic sludge but at least it'll be mostly malware hijacking graphics cards and other small model shenanigans in a few years.

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            Fi 🏳️‍⚧️
            wrote on last edited by
            #14

            Depends on how long the "more money than god" corps can keep up this hemmoraging; I figure google will likely outlast most of the competition, cuz their hardware verticality gives them more staying power due to the economic advantages of being able to have that shit in house.

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            • Fi 🏳️‍⚧️M Fi 🏳️‍⚧️

              Depends on how long the "more money than god" corps can keep up this hemmoraging; I figure google will likely outlast most of the competition, cuz their hardware verticality gives them more staying power due to the economic advantages of being able to have that shit in house.

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              wrote on last edited by
              #15

              tho if zuck mortgages facebook to fund this delusion I will laugh for a week

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              • Fi 🏳️‍⚧️M Fi 🏳️‍⚧️

                tho if zuck mortgages facebook to fund this delusion I will laugh for a week

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                wrote on last edited by
                #16

                thing is, there's only so long you can push a bubble like this without a result, and with "genai" the result is genuinely unattainable because - due to the size of the bubble - there is really no way to -actually pay off- the operations costs at this point.

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                • Fi 🏳️‍⚧️M Fi 🏳️‍⚧️

                  thing is, there's only so long you can push a bubble like this without a result, and with "genai" the result is genuinely unattainable because - due to the size of the bubble - there is really no way to -actually pay off- the operations costs at this point.

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #17

                  For example, openai says it wants 200M paying customers by 2030.

                  That is basically "the entire Professional and Business Services sector of the US economy" paying....apparently $25/seat/month.

                  I'm not entirely sure -paperclips- have that kind of market saturation.

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                  • Fi 🏳️‍⚧️M Fi 🏳️‍⚧️

                    For example, openai says it wants 200M paying customers by 2030.

                    That is basically "the entire Professional and Business Services sector of the US economy" paying....apparently $25/seat/month.

                    I'm not entirely sure -paperclips- have that kind of market saturation.

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #18

                    Oh I'm sorry, my mistake, I misread the chart.

                    it's 22 million, not 220 million, in that sector.

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                    • Fi 🏳️‍⚧️M Fi 🏳️‍⚧️

                      Oh I'm sorry, my mistake, I misread the chart.

                      it's 22 million, not 220 million, in that sector.

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #19

                      .....well that's concerning; -are- there 220 million professional and business services jobs worldwide?

                      How's their market penetration looking in China and India?

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                      • Fi 🏳️‍⚧️M Fi 🏳️‍⚧️

                        .....well that's concerning; -are- there 220 million professional and business services jobs worldwide?

                        How's their market penetration looking in China and India?

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #20

                        'cuz that's the thing, ain't gonna be a whole lot of workers who -don't- have desk jobs using this for work, so ...what, are you expecting amazon warehouse packers to go home and pay for chatgpt? vs, what, food?

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                        • Fi 🏳️‍⚧️M Fi 🏳️‍⚧️

                          'cuz that's the thing, ain't gonna be a whole lot of workers who -don't- have desk jobs using this for work, so ...what, are you expecting amazon warehouse packers to go home and pay for chatgpt? vs, what, food?

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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #21

                          Saw a fun thread the other day about lawyers complaining about chatgpt-enabled pro-se litigants.

                          So now one of your big professional orgs is associating your product with "annoying assholes who make a lot more very tedious work for us" - great job there.

                          Again, made it too cheap and too easily available. You put too low a value on human expertise, you fuckweasels.

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                          • Fi 🏳️‍⚧️M Fi 🏳️‍⚧️

                            Saw a fun thread the other day about lawyers complaining about chatgpt-enabled pro-se litigants.

                            So now one of your big professional orgs is associating your product with "annoying assholes who make a lot more very tedious work for us" - great job there.

                            Again, made it too cheap and too easily available. You put too low a value on human expertise, you fuckweasels.

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                            #22

                            @munin Dont forget also associating it with "that thing that will get our license yanked by lying to us"

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