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New blog entry: More in Sadness than in Anger: https://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2026/02/more-in-sadness-than-in-anger.html

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  • Jef PoskanzerJ Jef Poskanzer

    @feorag @cstross France absolutely should lean in on making guillotines a world-recognized brand. Every teen should have a Monsieur Choppy labubu hanging off their backpack.

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    @jef @feorag @cstross the guillotine maybe the only technology that can save this century.

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    • gjmG gjm

      @javierg @cstross How is Gates responsible for millions of deaths during the pandemic?

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      @gjm @javierg @cstross iirc he lobbied for more money to the vaccine makers, and specifically not for more vaccines

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      • mx alex tax1a - 2020 (5)A mx alex tax1a - 2020 (5)

        @gjm @javierg @cstross iirc he lobbied for more money to the vaccine makers, and specifically not for more vaccines

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        @atax1a @javierg @cstross Noted. Is there some analysis somewhere of how that allegedly makes him responsible for millions of deaths?

        (I can imagine how it might. I can also imagine how it might have been the actually-most-effective course of action but spinnable as responsible for millions of deaths by people who want to make him look bad. I can also imagine how it might be very impossible to determine whether what he did was actually good or bad either in expectation or in actual effects, which seems to me the most likely situation.)

        [EDITED to add:] A bit of casual web-searching didn't turn up anything super-obvious but did produce e.g. this https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/gates-foundation-donates-70-million-to-covid/ which for all I know may have been a poorly-directed donation or one where donating more would have done a lot of good but, well, I know _I_ didn't donate any number of millions to anything related to COVID vaccines and it seems like if Gates wanted everyone to die he could just have, like, not done that.

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        • gjmG gjm

          @atax1a @javierg @cstross Noted. Is there some analysis somewhere of how that allegedly makes him responsible for millions of deaths?

          (I can imagine how it might. I can also imagine how it might have been the actually-most-effective course of action but spinnable as responsible for millions of deaths by people who want to make him look bad. I can also imagine how it might be very impossible to determine whether what he did was actually good or bad either in expectation or in actual effects, which seems to me the most likely situation.)

          [EDITED to add:] A bit of casual web-searching didn't turn up anything super-obvious but did produce e.g. this https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/gates-foundation-donates-70-million-to-covid/ which for all I know may have been a poorly-directed donation or one where donating more would have done a lot of good but, well, I know _I_ didn't donate any number of millions to anything related to COVID vaccines and it seems like if Gates wanted everyone to die he could just have, like, not done that.

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          @gjm this does not appear to be a question in good faith so we're outta here

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          • mx alex tax1a - 2020 (5)A mx alex tax1a - 2020 (5)

            @gjm this does not appear to be a question in good faith so we're outta here

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            @atax1a Obviously you're under no obligation to answer any questions, nor to believe anything I say, but for what it's worth it was absolutely a question in good faith. I don't know exactly what Gates did and didn't do, it sounds like you know more than me, I had a bit of a look and didn't find anything definitive, and I'd like to know more.

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            • gjmG gjm

              @atax1a Obviously you're under no obligation to answer any questions, nor to believe anything I say, but for what it's worth it was absolutely a question in good faith. I don't know exactly what Gates did and didn't do, it sounds like you know more than me, I had a bit of a look and didn't find anything definitive, and I'd like to know more.

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              @gjm and we have better things to do with our morning

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              • Darwin WoodkaD Darwin Woodka

                @HighlandLawyer @MedeaVanamonde @cstross

                I think it might go faster if we just ate the richest one every week though

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                @darwinwoodka @HighlandLawyer @cstross

                Or Sacrifice them to Madame Pele on the Big Island.

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                • GinevraCatG GinevraCat

                  @cstross And the thing to understand about being "poor", is that that includes everything up to the very tippy top of upper middle class!!

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                  @cstross @GinevraCat In the county in which I live, I’m theoretically “rich” because I’m in the upper quartile of income here, but people from places like the SF bay area scoff and describe anyone not making multiple millions per year as “poor.”

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                  • Medea VanamondeM Medea Vanamonde

                    @darwinwoodka @HighlandLawyer @cstross

                    Or Sacrifice them to Madame Pele on the Big Island.

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                    @MedeaVanamonde @darwinwoodka @cstross
                    Aye, it's good to keep up the old traditions

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                    • jslJ jsl

                      @trademark @cstross And as Labour is so far to the right, why aren't there more parties to the left, besides the Greens maybe? Are voters more conservative than on the continent, despite apparent deprivation in large parts of the country?

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                      @jsl @trademark @cstross I do not declare myself an expert on UK politics, but the first past the post voting system, and one candidate per election area, makes it very hard for new parties to get started since people rightfully worry about “wasting” their vote.

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                      • Samantha RoseS Samantha Rose

                        @jsl @trademark @cstross I do not declare myself an expert on UK politics, but the first past the post voting system, and one candidate per election area, makes it very hard for new parties to get started since people rightfully worry about “wasting” their vote.

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                        @samantha42 @jsl @cstross The issue is not unique to the UK. In all countries the left is always prone to fragmenting into internecine war. In particular the Weimar republic had proportional representation when Hitler got elected. I wish people would care to actually study history and learn from the places that has avoided this(so far)...

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                        • HighlandLawyerH HighlandLawyer

                          @darwinwoodka @MedeaVanamonde @cstross
                          Well let's be fair about this: a national lottery. One person a week is to be sacrificed, drawn by lot; but the number of entries in the lottery is the number of <£$¥€> one has, & that wealth will be returned to the national pot. It could be you, but statistically it's much more likely to be a billionaire.

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                          @HighlandLawyer @darwinwoodka @MedeaVanamonde That's going to reap an awful lot of middle-aged/middle-class skulls, though: 3000 middle-aged folks who own average homes (£0.3M each) = one billionaire-equivalent. Might be best to omit the family home from the notional wealth.

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                          • Kayla Allen 🏳️‍⚧️K Kayla Allen 🏳️‍⚧️

                            @cstross @GinevraCat In the county in which I live, I’m theoretically “rich” because I’m in the upper quartile of income here, but people from places like the SF bay area scoff and describe anyone not making multiple millions per year as “poor.”

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                            @cstross @GinevraCat And by “in the upper quartile,” I mean “just barely in it.” So I’m probably around the 75-80%, not the 99%, in a mostly rural county primarily depending upon being a commuter country for Reno.

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                            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                              @HighlandLawyer @darwinwoodka @MedeaVanamonde That's going to reap an awful lot of middle-aged/middle-class skulls, though: 3000 middle-aged folks who own average homes (£0.3M each) = one billionaire-equivalent. Might be best to omit the family home from the notional wealth.

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                              @cstross @darwinwoodka @MedeaVanamonde
                              Counterpoint- great method to reduce prices in the housing market.

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                              • HighlandLawyerH HighlandLawyer

                                @darwinwoodka @MedeaVanamonde @cstross
                                Well let's be fair about this: a national lottery. One person a week is to be sacrificed, drawn by lot; but the number of entries in the lottery is the number of <£$¥€> one has, & that wealth will be returned to the national pot. It could be you, but statistically it's much more likely to be a billionaire.

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                                @HighlandLawyer @darwinwoodka @MedeaVanamonde @cstross Well, that’s a better basis for Omelas than the original …

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                                • Their friend, Svavar,S Their friend, Svavar,

                                  @cstross

                                  The fact that Gates wanted to give his wife STD medication without her knowledge tells you everything you need to know about Microsoft's and the tech industry's approach to consent.

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                                  @svavar @cstross

                                  [vomit emoji}
                                  Bill Gates - what an oppressive, abusive creep.

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                                  • skuaS skua

                                    @svavar @cstross

                                    [vomit emoji}
                                    Bill Gates - what an oppressive, abusive creep.

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                                    @skua @svavar @cstross Nothing we didn't already know since - oh, 1977.

                                    Sorry for the source 😬

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                                    When billionaire geeks fall out: Bill, was the big meanie of Microsoft, claims co-founder who says Gates 'tried to cut him out when he got sick with cancer'

                                    Paul Allen claims Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates, pictured, wanted to dilute his share in the firm in 1982 because he didn’t think he was working hard enough.

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                                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                      New blog entry: More in Sadness than in Anger: https://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2026/02/more-in-sadness-than-in-anger.html

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                                      @cstross I’m repeatedly struck by how incredibly, mind-numbingly stupid these people are. Really just brain achingly dumb despite the appearance of, in some cases remarkable intellect. There’s some incredible brain rot going on but also perhaps it betrays something fundamental about the “success” of these folk, that they are really good at manipulating others.

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                                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                        Footnote: the outcome of the Epstein/Gates email itself is immaterial—what's interesting is the mind set underlying it, which seems to have strong explanatory power for our current mess: there are too many poor people, and Epstein and his mates would like to get rid of us.

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                                        @cstross Reminiscent of discourse of the London intelligensia at the time of the Irish Famine (Nassau Senior, Economist magazine): the projected population decline was spoken of as highly desirable but likely too small.

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                                        • Their friend, Svavar,S Their friend, Svavar,

                                          @cstross

                                          The fact that Gates wanted to give his wife STD medication without her knowledge tells you everything you need to know about Microsoft's and the tech industry's approach to consent.

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                                          @svavar @BrianSmith950 @cstross is that a fact? We've only Epstein's word for it, in drafts not sent to anyone else, haven't we?

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