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    There is only one of each of the other creatures as well, so?

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      “What you in for, boy?”

      “Littering.”

      everyone moves away

      “…And causing a nuisance.”

      everyone comes back

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        There is only one of each of the other creatures as well, so?

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        edgemaster72@lemmy.world
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        Since it says “full human” I like to think the rest are like half-human or something, so they all technically have that in common, even if their other halves are all different

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          HobbitFoot
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          My current character is a somewhat generic human fighter. It’s going well.

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            sunsofold@lemmings.world
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            That was one of those things that kind of bugs me about so many other hominid species in DnD and the like. You’re telling me there are this many species that are basically a human+X, but they’re all distinct and separate? How does that happen? Even with racism, you still get the horrors of sexual violence that will cross those taboos. We have half-elves, but not half-genasi? And all the half-elves are half elf, half human, not half something else? Same with the half-orcs? Same with tieflings, etc? If there are no actual physical blockages to human/elf pairings, and half-elves are so much longer lived while still reaching adulthood in the same number of years as a human, how many generations do you really think you can maintain a distinction between them? Give it a few hundred years and you won’t have elves and humans and half-elves, you’ll have a complex gradient of very elf to very human to very orcish to very dwarven to every every other ‘race’ on the setting. At a certain point races in DnD make even less sense than the imaginary ‘races’ of humans in the real world.

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              incognitomosquito@beehaw.org
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              I’m a simple man. I see an opportunity for another feat, I take it.

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              • S sunsofold@lemmings.world

                That was one of those things that kind of bugs me about so many other hominid species in DnD and the like. You’re telling me there are this many species that are basically a human+X, but they’re all distinct and separate? How does that happen? Even with racism, you still get the horrors of sexual violence that will cross those taboos. We have half-elves, but not half-genasi? And all the half-elves are half elf, half human, not half something else? Same with the half-orcs? Same with tieflings, etc? If there are no actual physical blockages to human/elf pairings, and half-elves are so much longer lived while still reaching adulthood in the same number of years as a human, how many generations do you really think you can maintain a distinction between them? Give it a few hundred years and you won’t have elves and humans and half-elves, you’ll have a complex gradient of very elf to very human to very orcish to very dwarven to every every other ‘race’ on the setting. At a certain point races in DnD make even less sense than the imaginary ‘races’ of humans in the real world.

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                Partial fertility and magic influence. Orcs and elves aren’t interfertile. Genasi aren’t half-elementals, they’re humans with elemental influence. Perhaps the inherent faeness of elves prevents elf-genasi.

                Or take a lineage and do whatever.

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                • S sunsofold@lemmings.world

                  That was one of those things that kind of bugs me about so many other hominid species in DnD and the like. You’re telling me there are this many species that are basically a human+X, but they’re all distinct and separate? How does that happen? Even with racism, you still get the horrors of sexual violence that will cross those taboos. We have half-elves, but not half-genasi? And all the half-elves are half elf, half human, not half something else? Same with the half-orcs? Same with tieflings, etc? If there are no actual physical blockages to human/elf pairings, and half-elves are so much longer lived while still reaching adulthood in the same number of years as a human, how many generations do you really think you can maintain a distinction between them? Give it a few hundred years and you won’t have elves and humans and half-elves, you’ll have a complex gradient of very elf to very human to very orcish to very dwarven to every every other ‘race’ on the setting. At a certain point races in DnD make even less sense than the imaginary ‘races’ of humans in the real world.

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                  D&D actually has mongrelfolk as a hybrid of basically everything.

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                  • Tlaloc_TemporalT Tlaloc_Temporal

                    Partial fertility and magic influence. Orcs and elves aren’t interfertile. Genasi aren’t half-elementals, they’re humans with elemental influence. Perhaps the inherent faeness of elves prevents elf-genasi.

                    Or take a lineage and do whatever.

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                    sunsofold@lemmings.world
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                    There is the ‘mule rule’ thing. It solves the issue in some ways, but still just seems odd somehow. Given the alternative is just *jazz hands* ‘because magic,’ though…

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                      D&D actually has mongrelfolk as a hybrid of basically everything.

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                      sunsofold@lemmings.world
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                      I hadn’t seen them before. Man, the DnD ‘races’ concept always gets weird in its relation to real world racism but… sheesh.

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                      • S sunsofold@lemmings.world

                        That was one of those things that kind of bugs me about so many other hominid species in DnD and the like. You’re telling me there are this many species that are basically a human+X, but they’re all distinct and separate? How does that happen? Even with racism, you still get the horrors of sexual violence that will cross those taboos. We have half-elves, but not half-genasi? And all the half-elves are half elf, half human, not half something else? Same with the half-orcs? Same with tieflings, etc? If there are no actual physical blockages to human/elf pairings, and half-elves are so much longer lived while still reaching adulthood in the same number of years as a human, how many generations do you really think you can maintain a distinction between them? Give it a few hundred years and you won’t have elves and humans and half-elves, you’ll have a complex gradient of very elf to very human to very orcish to very dwarven to every every other ‘race’ on the setting. At a certain point races in DnD make even less sense than the imaginary ‘races’ of humans in the real world.

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                        festnt@sh.itjust.works
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                        mandatory “pathfinder 2e fixes that”

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                          mandatory “pathfinder 2e fixes that”

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                          AwesomeLowlander
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                          How does it fix it? I’m familiar with the rules but not the lore

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                            How does it fix it? I’m familiar with the rules but not the lore

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                            festnt@sh.itjust.works
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                            there are ancestries, which are like dnd races/species

                            then there are heritages, which are like subraces/subspecies

                            and there are versatile heritages, which any ancestry can take.

                            for example, there’s nephilim, which means you have some celestial or fiendish being influence (it’s the pf2e remastered version of tieflings and aasimars). it lets you choose one out of a bunch of different types of fiends and celestials through lineage feats (which are kind of subsubspecies).

                            there’s also dhampir, which means one of your parents was a vampire, and it lets you choose through a lineage feat what kind of vampire they were.

                            and there are some that don’t have lineages, like hungerseed (half-oni), and duskwalker (reborn with a connection to death or something, it’s complicated)

                            and finally, there’s aiuvarin (half-elf) and droomar (half-orc), which let you choose from all feats from your ancestry + elf or orc respectively. the rules allow you to create your own custom mixed ancestry, which work the same way, you just need to work with your GM to create feats that only work for those who are only half of that ancestry (both aiuvarin and droomar include feats that pure elves and orcs can’t take)

                            if you want more specific details:
                            Mixed Ancestry rules https://2e.aonprd.com/Rules.aspx?ID=2093

                            List of Versatile Hertiages https://2e.aonprd.com/Ancestries.aspx?Versatile=true

                            edit: forgot 2 words

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