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Ban flavoured vapes now, anti-smoking groups urge Carney’s government - National | Globalnews.ca

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  • x00z@lemmy.worldX x00z@lemmy.world

    I smoke flavored eliquid. I don’t want you to choose what I can and can’t do. I’m not a kid and I know the risks.

    Come up with some actual improvements instead of pushing everything into the underground. Like actually start to punishing people that sell to kids. Smh

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    Pyr
    wrote on last edited by pyr_pressure@lemmy.ca
    #68

    Eh, unhealthy habits do have a cost to society if you end up getting cancer and then we all have to pay for your treatment.

    Although people who drink too much also don’t get a new liver if they need it, so maybe people who smoke should just forfeit the right to cancer treatment.

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    • H hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

      The Government of Canada and Health Canada created this mess all on their own, and here’s how it happened …

      On Jan 1, 2021 the feds enacted new vape laws based on Child Resistant packaging. The committee who recommended the restrictions had found a single instance from the early '00s of a US child who had died from consuming vape liquid. From that the committee decided that all vaping products (including juice, RTAs, RTDs, etc) had to be childproof. Now it’s pretty easy to make vape juice containers childproof … but not so easy to make tanks childproof.

      Right along side of that are the disposable vapes who were making headway into the market. And ofc they are childproof (concerning the liquid anyway).

      It didn’t take long for the more expensive mods and tanks to disappear from the market, leaving only the cheap and easily accessable disposables … which kids can afford and often have access to.

      So instead of fixing the current laws the gov’t has instead decided to add to them … leading to restrictions on flavours.

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      saigot@lemmy.ca
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      It’s interesting that cannabis oil vapes (side note i find these worse in almost every way to a dry herb vape and don’t understand the popularity) almost always have disposable tanks attached towith reusable batteries in contrast to nicotine almost always fully disposable.

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      • G godort@lemm.ee

        Why not ban both? There are nuanced approaches you could take that wouldn’t immediately force every addict to quit cold turkey, or turn to the black market.

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        junkers_klunker@feddit.dk
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        Flavoured vapes (except menthol and smoke flavour) is illegal in Denmark, and guess what? Everyone and their mother vapes illegal vapes. The prices has actually somewhat gone down after the ban plus today I see kids vaping everywhere, didn’t do that as much five years ago.

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          lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com
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          Ban flavored vapes, switch to cigarettes & cigars. 👍

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            trungulox@lemm.ee
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            Go fuck yourself. Now. Fucking cunt cheese nanny state wastes of fucking skin.

            Kindly find a porto potty, eat everything inside of it, and die in fucking agony. Please.

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            • PyrP Pyr

              Eh, unhealthy habits do have a cost to society if you end up getting cancer and then we all have to pay for your treatment.

              Although people who drink too much also don’t get a new liver if they need it, so maybe people who smoke should just forfeit the right to cancer treatment.

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              yezzey@lemmy.ca
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              Smokers and drinkers pay way more tax.

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              • T trungulox@lemm.ee

                Go fuck yourself. Now. Fucking cunt cheese nanny state wastes of fucking skin.

                Kindly find a porto potty, eat everything inside of it, and die in fucking agony. Please.

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                itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                #74

                Deep breaths, in and out. And once you’re calmed down, please consider why you want someone to die in agony over watermelon flavored vapor

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                • F fireretardant@lemmy.world

                  Ive seen a single use vape that has a touch screen on it and you can connect to your phone. What a colossal waste of resources.

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                  tempest@lemmy.ca
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                  I watched a video of Guy who collected a ton of them off the ground and built a USB power bank with them. They were rechargeable li on batteries. It is crazy.

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                  • T themeatbridge

                    I would imagine that anyone in favor of one is also likely in fvaor of the other.

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                    vala@lemmy.world
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                    You would imagine wrong because it’s not about logical consistency with these people.

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                    • G greyeyedghost@lemmy.ca

                      So, if can only assume that you don’t believe tobacco companies did the other things they did because North Americans were growing, drying, and smoking tobacco for thousands of years before those companies came into existence.

                      Everything you described is what happens when niche hobbies become mainstream. That doesn’t mean malicious organizations can’t see the potential for profit and engage in predatory practices. And it doesn’t mean that something that wasn’t particularly harmful to society can’t become harmful when it goes from a niche activity to something mainstream and commercialized.

                      Care to explain how your vaping experience would be lessened if the device didn’t look like a children’s toy? Or why they should be allowed to be advertised on TV? Also mentioned in those links, about 15% of youths vape with unflavored products. If they can do it these days, I’m sure you’ll be able to handle it, too.

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                      Concetta
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                      Sweet response that addressed almost nothing they said and only chose to condescend to them. Are cigarettes unflavored? Because I sure preferred that taste and only continue to not smoke because I enjoy vaping fruity flavours, and know that it’s better for me than smoking. And hell yeah, let’s get rid of one use devices and bring back RDAs, RDTAs and all the other stuff that initially helped me quit smoking, and then let’s further legislate and ban the sale of vapes from gas stations and crack down on vape shops who sell to minors. Bet you that works a lot better than anything you’d suggest.

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