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Desperate to fight Steam, Epic burns money like firewood – but admits the Epic Games Store kind of sucks and "there's still a ton of work to be done" with "long overdue features"

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    coacoamelky@lemm.ee
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    Well they released a crappy store to compete in a market with well made products and services. Oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      blametheantifa@lemmy.world
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      I like the idea of competition, but there is no excuse for the Epic Game Store being so awful. It could have been rebuilt from the ground up many times over in the years since it launched. It’s abundantly clear that Sweeney has no intention of improving it or giving consumers the features they actually want.

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        catloaf@lemm.ee
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        If they’re so desperate, have they tried making a competitive product?

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        • UlrichU Ulrich

          It just comes down to wanting a larger cut of the sales

          I think it’s more about advertising. The launcher for these companies could be super simple but instead it’s a fuckin billboard with rampant pop-up notifications.

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          ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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          Also even if you install these launchers for the one game that forces it and never touch them again, they’re still sitting quietly in the background uploading and selling all your usage information and browser history and gaming history.

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          • A ayyy@sh.itjust.works

            Also even if you install these launchers for the one game that forces it and never touch them again, they’re still sitting quietly in the background uploading and selling all your usage information and browser history and gaming history.

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            Ulrich
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            Being Epic is owned by Tencent, that’s pretty much guaranteed.

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              Rob Bos
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              They skipped step one of enshittification. You’ve got to GET the customers before you can leverage them against your suppliers.

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                Rob Bos
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                Their active hostility toward Linux users has put me off them pretty much permanently. If they made a big push toward Linux support, I might look at them more favourably.

                They clearly don’t want me as a customer: fuck 'em.

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                • I isekaihero@ani.social

                  I just don’t see a place for it in the market. Steam is the big daddy DRM store. GOG is the old school DRM-free store. Itch is the small time indie dev store. Epic will never be a general storefront like one of the above. The only reason to use Epic is to play one of their exclusive games, and in that case they’re no different from any company that refuses to multiplat their games. Blizzard selling their games on the Blizzard store or Nintendo selling their games on the Nintendo store. It just comes down to wanting a larger cut of the sales, instead of paying someone else to use their storefront.

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                  Rentlar
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                  The only reason to use Epic is to play one of their exclusive games

                  Don’t forget we also kindly accept the embers of the cash burnt through free weekly giveaways.

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                  • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksS samus12345@sh.itjust.works

                    It’s better on desktop. The thing they show first on mobile is the sidebar there.

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                    graphy@lemmy.world
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                    I mean even if we ignore the idiotic choice to put the sidebar in the content at smaller widths, you’re still left with a terrible site.

                    Generic, meaningless tags along with no user reviews make the site useless.

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                      mangopenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                      Surely with the money they burn they could have fixed up the store by now?

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                      • G graphy@lemmy.world

                        I mean even if we ignore the idiotic choice to put the sidebar in the content at smaller widths, you’re still left with a terrible site.

                        Generic, meaningless tags along with no user reviews make the site useless.

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                        samus12345@sh.itjust.works
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                        Agreed, it’s not well-designed.

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                        • B blametheantifa@lemmy.world

                          I like the idea of competition, but there is no excuse for the Epic Game Store being so awful. It could have been rebuilt from the ground up many times over in the years since it launched. It’s abundantly clear that Sweeney has no intention of improving it or giving consumers the features they actually want.

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                          trainguyrom@reddthat.com
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                          How hard is it to simply show a rough estimate of how much storage space a game will need before downloading? I’m not talking groundbreaking stuff here…

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                          • T trainguyrom@reddthat.com

                            How hard is it to simply show a rough estimate of how much storage space a game will need before downloading? I’m not talking groundbreaking stuff here…

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                            blametheantifa@lemmy.world
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                            Clearly you ask for too much.

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                            • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca

                              Make small admission to hide a bit trick.

                              They never care about having a good video game store, they want a good frontend for Fortnite.

                              Epic is eyeing Roblox: any good game made, no matter where it is sold, will become endlessly cloned in Roblox… almost all the money spend in Roblox, remain in Roblox.

                              A good game in Epic Game Store? Soon or later it will go on Steam, and Epic will lose some potential money, will go on PSN, and Epic will lose some potential money, will go on Xbox Store and, you guessed, Epic will lose some potential money.

                              They are pushing hard for artist and coder to get stuck in the Fortnite “Roblox Wannabe” metaverse; that’s their only true goal. Lure developer, trap developers (I would say “Roblox lure child, trap child”, but it sound excessively weird)

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                              trainguyrom@reddthat.com
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                              Roblox: finally a place where kids too can experience sexual harassment, workplace discrimination, pay disputes and make risky investments in an unregulated commodities market

                              At least when RuneScape did it it was entirely limited to within the game and didn’t yet have a first party currency conversion system

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                                Lemminary
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                                #41

                                First, make it load way faster. Your app is second to everything I want to do.

                                Second, if I click on a game in my library, I don’t expect it to install in one single click. Even Steam has the decency to ask what I want to do. Maybe I want to remember what the game is about first.

                                Third, I expect you to update your client automatically instead of badgering me with restarting the app manually.

                                There, you made it 80% better for me with that.

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                                • B binturong@lemmy.ca

                                  Better not miss if you’re gonna come swing at the great. As a former Rocket League enjoyer who had Epic games shit up the game I bought BEFORE they got the rights; I say it’s physically impossible for Epic to fuck far enough off, but they can fuck themselves all the way to the event horizon of off and stare whistfully at the off that cannot be fucked. Forever.

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                                  spookex@lemmy.world
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                                  Neat, another former RL player.

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                                    I’m not fundamentally AGAINST the EGS but Epic is not a good company and saying that they have a ton of work to do is the understatement of the century.

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                                    • Jakob FelJ Jakob Fel

                                      I’m not fundamentally AGAINST the EGS but Epic is not a good company and saying that they have a ton of work to do is the understatement of the century.

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                                      fredselfish@lemmy.world
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                                      I use Epic for the free games, any games I want to buy either on Steam or independent website. I don’t buy games on Epic.

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                                        owljfien@lemm.ee
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                                        Only person in my circle who used EGS for anything, had their card cancelled by their bank the next day for suspicious activity

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                                          ledericas@lemm.ee
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                                          have epic tried using thier assets as fuel for the fire? besides epic, ubisoft is another bad one they got so desperate at one point they had to use a apple tv show to promote thier propaganda(mythic quest) a totally unfunny show, and it just rubbed people the wrong way, despite being made by one of the ISAIP founders, who was using that show for personal motives.

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