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Carney agrees to ‘regularize’ communication between Canada and China

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  • D daryl@lemmy.ca

    New Prime Minister, new relationship with China.

    China’s playbook seems to consistently follow this pattern. If they get in a spat with anther country, the grudge continues until a new state leader comes into play, then all past grievances are reset. Sort of like Union-management - when a new collective agreement is signed, past active grievances tend to be voided.

    Given that Carney is devout Catholic, we shall see if his dedication to the Pope, given the very tumultuous relationship between the Roman Catholic Pope and China, gets in the way of Good Governance in Canada’s policy decisions towards China.

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    kbal
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    For all I know Mr. Carney’s personal religious views may be of great interest to theologians, but they are not politically relevant in Canada or in China.

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    • H Optional

      Regularize?

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      i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca
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      It’s the store brand version of normalize.

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      • D daryl@lemmy.ca

        New Prime Minister, new relationship with China.

        China’s playbook seems to consistently follow this pattern. If they get in a spat with anther country, the grudge continues until a new state leader comes into play, then all past grievances are reset. Sort of like Union-management - when a new collective agreement is signed, past active grievances tend to be voided.

        Given that Carney is devout Catholic, we shall see if his dedication to the Pope, given the very tumultuous relationship between the Roman Catholic Pope and China, gets in the way of Good Governance in Canada’s policy decisions towards China.

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        ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca
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        #10

        Given that Carney is devout Catholic,

        Not while he’s in office

        But China is a better partner than the US for us right now and we will need them before we can ban trade/travel to the US

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        • D daryl@lemmy.ca

          New Prime Minister, new relationship with China.

          China’s playbook seems to consistently follow this pattern. If they get in a spat with anther country, the grudge continues until a new state leader comes into play, then all past grievances are reset. Sort of like Union-management - when a new collective agreement is signed, past active grievances tend to be voided.

          Given that Carney is devout Catholic, we shall see if his dedication to the Pope, given the very tumultuous relationship between the Roman Catholic Pope and China, gets in the way of Good Governance in Canada’s policy decisions towards China.

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          freebooter69@lemmy.ca
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          #11

          Communication is fine and cooperation where it is necessary and makes sense, but let’s prioritize CETA and CPTPP countries where trade is concerned.

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          • I ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca

            Given that Carney is devout Catholic,

            Not while he’s in office

            But China is a better partner than the US for us right now and we will need them before we can ban trade/travel to the US

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            daryl@lemmy.ca
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            Carney attended the inaugural mass for the new ope after he started office. He did so as a Catholic, not as a PM.

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            • D daryl@lemmy.ca

              Carney attended the inaugural mass for the new ope after he started office. He did so as a Catholic, not as a PM.

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              ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca
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              #13

              Yikes, I feel that should bar him from office

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              • kbalK kbal

                For all I know Mr. Carney’s personal religious views may be of great interest to theologians, but they are not politically relevant in Canada or in China.

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                daryl@lemmy.ca
                wrote on last edited by
                #14

                I matters a lot if he lets his religious views interfere with his political duties. During the last elelction, the Catholic Bishops made a point of commanding all Catholics to vote for a candidate that would push for Catholic theology to dictate policy.

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                • StametsS Stamets

                  Exactly. We’re on the same planet. You don’t have anywhere else to go. You cannot treat a nation like it is in an individual person. It’s a different creature all together that requires different handling entirely. As much as I fucking hate the United States, so much so that I cannot elaborate on that without violating TOS, you can’t just wall them off completely.

                  Personally I prefer the “Anything you can do, I can do better” tactic of vengeance. Take literally everything good America has ever done and buff it until it shines. Throw away anything that doesn’t work. Then use all of that manipulation and forced economic struggle to collapse that sham of a country into what it actually is, at MINIMUM 3 different countries in a trenchcoat.

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                  daryl@lemmy.ca
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                  Your opinions would be received much more favorably without the obscenities. They add nothing and turn people off.

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                  • I ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca

                    Yikes, I feel that should bar him from office

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                    daryl@lemmy.ca
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                    #16

                    Apparently there is no such prohibition in Canada. Even leaders are free to worship according to their faith.

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                    • freebooter69@lemmy.caF freebooter69@lemmy.ca

                      Communication is fine and cooperation where it is necessary and makes sense, but let’s prioritize CETA and CPTPP countries where trade is concerned.

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                      daryl@lemmy.ca
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #17

                      Let’s do what it takes, and certainly do not let America dictate our trade policies.

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                      • D daryl@lemmy.ca

                        Your opinions would be received much more favorably without the obscenities. They add nothing and turn people off.

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                        Stamets
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                        Gaze upon my field of fucks and see that it is barren. The fucktiller idle, the fuckerlizer piled in a corner and the seeds of fuck yet to be sown.

                        I genuinely couldn’t care less what you think if you’re going to lecture me over using the word fuck once. This isn’t elementary school in rural Manitoba. This is the Internet.

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                        • D daryl@lemmy.ca

                          Apparently there is no such prohibition in Canada. Even leaders are free to worship according to their faith.

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                          ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca
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                          #19

                          I suppose it’s a matter for the courts to ensure reasonable limits for section 2 of the Charter is upheld

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                          • D daryl@lemmy.ca

                            Your opinions would be received much more favorably without the obscenities. They add nothing and turn people off.

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                            howrar@lemmy.ca
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                            “Fucking” is an intensifier in this sentence. The meaning would slightly change without it.

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                            • I ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca

                              Yikes, I feel that should bar him from office

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                              setVeryLoud(true);
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                              Freedom from religion comes with freedom of religion in Canada.

                              He’s conservative, I’m not surprised he’s religious.

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                              • H howrar@lemmy.ca

                                “Fucking” is an intensifier in this sentence. The meaning would slightly change without it.

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                                Stamets
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                                Fucking thank you

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                                • D daryl@lemmy.ca

                                  New Prime Minister, new relationship with China.

                                  China’s playbook seems to consistently follow this pattern. If they get in a spat with anther country, the grudge continues until a new state leader comes into play, then all past grievances are reset. Sort of like Union-management - when a new collective agreement is signed, past active grievances tend to be voided.

                                  Given that Carney is devout Catholic, we shall see if his dedication to the Pope, given the very tumultuous relationship between the Roman Catholic Pope and China, gets in the way of Good Governance in Canada’s policy decisions towards China.

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                                  Kalvin
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                                  One of my friends is from Canada.

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                                  • K Kalvin

                                    One of my friends is from Canada.

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                                    sturgist@lemmy.ca
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                                    You wouldn’t know him though, he goes to a different school…

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                                    • H howrar@lemmy.ca

                                      “Fucking” is an intensifier in this sentence. The meaning would slightly change without it.

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                                      daryl@lemmy.ca
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                                      It is not an ‘intensifier’, it is just obnoxious. The purpose is not to enhance any meaning, but to ‘dominate’ over the reader. The word is used in an ‘adversarial’ context - an insult and a challenge to the reader. It is symbolic of the general anger that we see so commonly today, and I submit it is a direct cause if that anger. The demise of American civilility is completely mapped on to the curve for the use of these obnoxious, angry, combative vulgar terms in the common vernacular.

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                                      • D daryl@lemmy.ca

                                        It is not an ‘intensifier’, it is just obnoxious. The purpose is not to enhance any meaning, but to ‘dominate’ over the reader. The word is used in an ‘adversarial’ context - an insult and a challenge to the reader. It is symbolic of the general anger that we see so commonly today, and I submit it is a direct cause if that anger. The demise of American civilility is completely mapped on to the curve for the use of these obnoxious, angry, combative vulgar terms in the common vernacular.

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                                        ArxCyberwolf
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                                        If you can’t handle the word “fuck” then you shouldn’t be online. People are angry, and rightfully so, and should be able to express said anger without being tone policed.

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                                        • I ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca

                                          Given that Carney is devout Catholic,

                                          Not while he’s in office

                                          But China is a better partner than the US for us right now and we will need them before we can ban trade/travel to the US

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                                          spacecowboy@lemmy.ca
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                                          #27

                                          We’re not quite to this extreme (yet?) but it’s a similar logic to allying with Stalin when Hitler was around.

                                          Trump isn’t Hitler, and Xi isn’t Stalin, but the logic is similar. It’s an ugly thing, Xi is a complete shitbag after all. But Trump is the more immediate threat.

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