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Carney: "Iran’s nuclear programme is a grave threat to international security, and Canada has been consistently clear that Iran can never be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon."

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  • T teppa

    Its called military keynesianism. Its how the US creates dollars, which are then imported into Europe and the globe.

    Places like Europe, Canada, and China maintain a net export with the US, importing USD, which stabilizes their currency. The US imports debt and runs a large deficits in order to supply USD to the world. This is what Trump seemingly wants to milk to drop corporate tax, and thus Europe now has to build up their military, in order for their economic system to continue to function without USD.

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    Daniel Quinn
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    That Varoufakis speech was excellent. Thanks so much for sharing!

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    • G grte@lemmy.ca

      Iran’s nuclear programme is a grave threat to international security, and Canada has been consistently clear that Iran can never be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon.

      While U.S. military action taken last night was designed to alleviate that threat, the situation in the Middle East remains highly volatile. Stability in the region is a priority.

      Canada calls on parties to return immediately to the negotiating table and reach a diplomatic solution to end this crisis. As G7 leaders agreed in Kananaskis, the resolution of the Iranian crisis should lead to a broader de-escalation of hostilities in the Middle East, including a ceasefire in Gaza.

      (With apologies for the Twitter link, this post doesn’t seem to have been copied over to Bluesky.)

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      Sixty
      wrote on last edited by sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works
      #13

      So we’re still USA’s toy dog I see. edit: and/or Israel? I guess we watch their and our actions instead of words to find out soon enough. Abrahamic cults are embarrassing. Three of the majors except Mormons are involved this time.

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      • G grte@lemmy.ca

        Iran’s nuclear programme is a grave threat to international security, and Canada has been consistently clear that Iran can never be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon.

        While U.S. military action taken last night was designed to alleviate that threat, the situation in the Middle East remains highly volatile. Stability in the region is a priority.

        Canada calls on parties to return immediately to the negotiating table and reach a diplomatic solution to end this crisis. As G7 leaders agreed in Kananaskis, the resolution of the Iranian crisis should lead to a broader de-escalation of hostilities in the Middle East, including a ceasefire in Gaza.

        (With apologies for the Twitter link, this post doesn’t seem to have been copied over to Bluesky.)

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        anachronist@midwest.social
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        A few months ago I said maybe Canadians shouldn’t put their faith into a globalist neolib banker and got down-voted.

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        • M melvin_ferd@lemmy.world

          Honestly part of me is agreeing that bombing these sites was good as long as they were building towards a nuke. If all this blows over in a month like a lot of things do lately, it is a bit of a safer world.

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          anachronist@midwest.social
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          Bombs for peace!

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          • G grte@lemmy.ca

            Iran’s nuclear programme is a grave threat to international security, and Canada has been consistently clear that Iran can never be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon.

            While U.S. military action taken last night was designed to alleviate that threat, the situation in the Middle East remains highly volatile. Stability in the region is a priority.

            Canada calls on parties to return immediately to the negotiating table and reach a diplomatic solution to end this crisis. As G7 leaders agreed in Kananaskis, the resolution of the Iranian crisis should lead to a broader de-escalation of hostilities in the Middle East, including a ceasefire in Gaza.

            (With apologies for the Twitter link, this post doesn’t seem to have been copied over to Bluesky.)

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            hertzdentalbar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            Either everyone gets nukes or no one gets nukes. Iran has every right to have them. Fuck I’d rather they have em than the Zionists next door who basically run a death cult.

            And Ill wager any “nuke” that ever goes off in North America will end up being an Israeli false flag.

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            • M melvin_ferd@lemmy.world

              Honestly part of me is agreeing that bombing these sites was good as long as they were building towards a nuke. If all this blows over in a month like a lot of things do lately, it is a bit of a safer world.

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              reannlegge@lemmy.ca
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              This wont be blown over in a month though, all of the intelligence was saying they were not building bombs. If they had ever had the ability to build a bomb I am sure they would have let the world know about it, having nukes are nothing more than deterrence now people have seen the devastation they can do if they are armed and dropped hell they know the devastation and destruction they can do if they are just dropped without being armed.

              Iran now has bigger enemies that there traditional iron dome cannot even protect them in the least. The uranium they were enriching for the power plant, medicine, and research now has a fourth use ‘dirty bombs.’ If they had no plans on making a weapon of mass destruction, as all evidence suggests, they do now.

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              • B bcsven@lemmy.ca

                The USA intelligence people testified Iran wasn’t building nukes, so who to believe?

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                melvin_ferd@lemmy.world
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                Then what are these facilities?

                Would American intelligence reveal that they know they’re building nukes if they had that information?

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                • G grte@lemmy.ca

                  Iran’s nuclear programme is a grave threat to international security, and Canada has been consistently clear that Iran can never be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon.

                  While U.S. military action taken last night was designed to alleviate that threat, the situation in the Middle East remains highly volatile. Stability in the region is a priority.

                  Canada calls on parties to return immediately to the negotiating table and reach a diplomatic solution to end this crisis. As G7 leaders agreed in Kananaskis, the resolution of the Iranian crisis should lead to a broader de-escalation of hostilities in the Middle East, including a ceasefire in Gaza.

                  (With apologies for the Twitter link, this post doesn’t seem to have been copied over to Bluesky.)

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                  Sunshine (she/her)
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                  What a joke of a prime minister!

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                  • M melvin_ferd@lemmy.world

                    Then what are these facilities?

                    Would American intelligence reveal that they know they’re building nukes if they had that information?

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                    bcsven@lemmy.ca
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                    You can refine uranium for power. Prior to trump breaking deals the Iranians had very low potent uranium. Mostly made up of 3.25 refinement. USA had dropped sanctions in agreement for not processing uranium past 20%. That was fine till trump got in power and broke the deal. Then they started refinement up to 60%. So there could be potential to further refine uranium over 90% purity to make weapons, but the amount they had was tiny, till trump fucked the deal

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                    • tattorack@lemmy.worldT tattorack@lemmy.world

                      Why?

                      Why is Iran’s nuclear programme such a grave threat? A grave threat, as opposed to… What exactly?

                      What makes China, Pakistan, Russia, India, or North Korea less of a threat?

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                      doylio@lemmy.ca
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                      To take the other side (not sure I agree):

                      Iran is unique in that it is run by a government that claims to be Islamic fundamentalists. This could make mutually assured destruction less effective if the ones launching the nukes truly believe that if they die in the retaliation they will go to heaven with their 72 virgins.

                      I’m not convinced that the Ayatollah is ok dying in the name of killing infidels, but I do see the merits of this argument.

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                      • B bcsven@lemmy.ca

                        You can refine uranium for power. Prior to trump breaking deals the Iranians had very low potent uranium. Mostly made up of 3.25 refinement. USA had dropped sanctions in agreement for not processing uranium past 20%. That was fine till trump got in power and broke the deal. Then they started refinement up to 60%. So there could be potential to further refine uranium over 90% purity to make weapons, but the amount they had was tiny, till trump fucked the deal

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                        melvin_ferd@lemmy.world
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                        I totally agree trump fucked the deal. He’s an absolute narcissist. He wants to tear down anything from Democrats. He wants to put his name on everything.

                        But at the end of the day, I’m kind of rooting for him here. I’m hoping this all blows over quickly and we’re in a world where Iran’s ability to develop nuclear weapons is crippled

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                        • M melvin_ferd@lemmy.world

                          I totally agree trump fucked the deal. He’s an absolute narcissist. He wants to tear down anything from Democrats. He wants to put his name on everything.

                          But at the end of the day, I’m kind of rooting for him here. I’m hoping this all blows over quickly and we’re in a world where Iran’s ability to develop nuclear weapons is crippled

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                          bcsven@lemmy.ca
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                          I seriously doubt its all going to blow over. No retailiation by Iran sends a signal of " bomb us anyone, we don’t fire back "

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                          • G grte@lemmy.ca

                            Iran’s nuclear programme is a grave threat to international security, and Canada has been consistently clear that Iran can never be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon.

                            While U.S. military action taken last night was designed to alleviate that threat, the situation in the Middle East remains highly volatile. Stability in the region is a priority.

                            Canada calls on parties to return immediately to the negotiating table and reach a diplomatic solution to end this crisis. As G7 leaders agreed in Kananaskis, the resolution of the Iranian crisis should lead to a broader de-escalation of hostilities in the Middle East, including a ceasefire in Gaza.

                            (With apologies for the Twitter link, this post doesn’t seem to have been copied over to Bluesky.)

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                            tleb@lemmy.ca
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                            To me, this statement sounds like not condoning America’s actions but still walking the line as to not sabotage trade talks. This has been Carney’s MO with Trump from the start, appease just enough without bending the knee to get a deal done.

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                            • tattorack@lemmy.worldT tattorack@lemmy.world

                              Why?

                              Why is Iran’s nuclear programme such a grave threat? A grave threat, as opposed to… What exactly?

                              What makes China, Pakistan, Russia, India, or North Korea less of a threat?

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                              Caedarai
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                              Well, Iran is the largest state sponsor of terrosit groups, arming and financing many in region to attack neighbours. You don’t see China arming terrorists in Mongolia or Vietnam to overthrow their governments, for starters. Then there is the bit where their official policy is basically to end the state of Israel. And there’s the fact that they have used terror themselves, kidnapping and extorsion to directly confront the west before, kidnap US citizens and fought wars against the western countries and allies. And both their official internal and external policies and policy goals are frankly terrifying.

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                              • G grte@lemmy.ca

                                Iran’s nuclear programme is a grave threat to international security, and Canada has been consistently clear that Iran can never be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon.

                                While U.S. military action taken last night was designed to alleviate that threat, the situation in the Middle East remains highly volatile. Stability in the region is a priority.

                                Canada calls on parties to return immediately to the negotiating table and reach a diplomatic solution to end this crisis. As G7 leaders agreed in Kananaskis, the resolution of the Iranian crisis should lead to a broader de-escalation of hostilities in the Middle East, including a ceasefire in Gaza.

                                (With apologies for the Twitter link, this post doesn’t seem to have been copied over to Bluesky.)

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                                bigfishbest@lemmy.world
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                                Well they’re pretty determined to get one now!

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                                • B Caedarai

                                  Well, Iran is the largest state sponsor of terrosit groups, arming and financing many in region to attack neighbours. You don’t see China arming terrorists in Mongolia or Vietnam to overthrow their governments, for starters. Then there is the bit where their official policy is basically to end the state of Israel. And there’s the fact that they have used terror themselves, kidnapping and extorsion to directly confront the west before, kidnap US citizens and fought wars against the western countries and allies. And both their official internal and external policies and policy goals are frankly terrifying.

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                                  tattorack@lemmy.world
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                                  So… They’re basically the same as the US and Russia?

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                                  • B Caedarai

                                    Well, Iran is the largest state sponsor of terrosit groups, arming and financing many in region to attack neighbours. You don’t see China arming terrorists in Mongolia or Vietnam to overthrow their governments, for starters. Then there is the bit where their official policy is basically to end the state of Israel. And there’s the fact that they have used terror themselves, kidnapping and extorsion to directly confront the west before, kidnap US citizens and fought wars against the western countries and allies. And both their official internal and external policies and policy goals are frankly terrifying.

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                                    inaminate_carbon_rod@lemmy.world
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                                    As opposed to Israel’s actual genocide.

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                                    • M melvin_ferd@lemmy.world

                                      I totally agree trump fucked the deal. He’s an absolute narcissist. He wants to tear down anything from Democrats. He wants to put his name on everything.

                                      But at the end of the day, I’m kind of rooting for him here. I’m hoping this all blows over quickly and we’re in a world where Iran’s ability to develop nuclear weapons is crippled

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                                      inaminate_carbon_rod@lemmy.world
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                                      Yeah cause the generations of Iranian children to come will just shrug and say “big Daddy America was correct to take away our stuff”

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                                      • B Caedarai

                                        Well, Iran is the largest state sponsor of terrosit groups, arming and financing many in region to attack neighbours. You don’t see China arming terrorists in Mongolia or Vietnam to overthrow their governments, for starters. Then there is the bit where their official policy is basically to end the state of Israel. And there’s the fact that they have used terror themselves, kidnapping and extorsion to directly confront the west before, kidnap US citizens and fought wars against the western countries and allies. And both their official internal and external policies and policy goals are frankly terrifying.

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                                        hikingvet@lemmy.ca
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                                        Nah, China just does oppression and genocide inside their borders. Oh and taking hostages as well.

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                                        • B bcsven@lemmy.ca

                                          I seriously doubt its all going to blow over. No retailiation by Iran sends a signal of " bomb us anyone, we don’t fire back "

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                                          melvin_ferd@lemmy.world
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                                          For sure, but Iran doesn’t have many options do they? I think by blow over, I mean they’ll retaliate in the way these countries do. They will signal their attack loudly and early. USA and Israel will have time to prepare. Iran attacks. America says fuck you and does a return. Iran again does another attack with a huge signal to say look we’re retaliating. Then it’s all back to business as usual. Everybody gets to say they did something and they’re all big bad boys.

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