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  • S showroom7561@lemmy.ca

    Religious texts, such as the Bible, will be allowed on the shelves.

    … as most of the books Nicolaides said he was looking to take off shelves deal with 2SLGBTQ+ subject matter.

    Have the Satanic Temple republish those books so they remain accessible.

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    notmyoldredditname@lemmy.world
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    I’m actually surprised they haven’t done something like that.

    We’re republishing Looking For Alaska, as it’s now a holy text that teaches our disciples about loss and grief.

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    • R randomgal@lemmy.ca

      NGL this sounda like a nothing burger. The news are “Adults Only” books are no longer awolled in schools? What non smutty book even fulfills that criteria?

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      silasmariner@programming.dev
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      Lolita, The French Lieutenant’s Woman, IT. All books I read as a teen with explicit sexual content…

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      • N notmyoldredditname@lemmy.world

        Explicit sexual content, defined by the province as detailed and clear depictions of sexual acts, including masturbation, penetration and ejaculation, will not be accessible to students in any grade.

        also

        Religious texts, such as the Bible, will be allowed on the shelves.

        I’m shocked… really, like, i 100% knew that was going to be in there article. So actually, I’m not shocked. Fuck you Alberta.

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        datavoid@lemmy.ml
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        Ezekiel 23:20-21

        She lusted after lovers with genitals as large as a donkey’s and emissions like those of a horse. And so, Oholibah, you relived your former days as a young girl in Egypt, when you first allowed your breasts to be fondled.

        Good thing they have clear standards!

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        • R randomgal@lemmy.ca

          NGL this sounda like a nothing burger. The news are “Adults Only” books are no longer awolled in schools? What non smutty book even fulfills that criteria?

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          ideonek
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          #14

          All David Gemmells books.

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          • T teppa

            I mean are you guys thinking we want pornographic material in schools?

            Clearly its messed up, its not something to put in schools.

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            greyeyedghost@lemmy.ca
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            Pretty much any book that is going to have useful information for sex ed, which is taught at around ages 10 to 12, is either going to be useless or sufficiently graphic for hormonal pubescent kids. Back when I was a kid, the go-to source for accessible nudity was National Geographic. Also, there were kids who would read the National Geographics to learn about the world (which included places with different taboos than us). Should the education of some be hampered for the sake of the ignorance of others? Alberta says yes.

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            • S silasmariner@programming.dev

              Lolita, The French Lieutenant’s Woman, IT. All books I read as a teen with explicit sexual content…

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              randomgal@lemmy.ca
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              #16

              And you borrowed these books from your school’s library?

              To clarify: You borrowed fucking Lolita from your school’s library? And you want other kids to be able to do the same?

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              • R randomgal@lemmy.ca

                And you borrowed these books from your school’s library?

                To clarify: You borrowed fucking Lolita from your school’s library? And you want other kids to be able to do the same?

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                silasmariner@programming.dev
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                #17

                Yeah. A couple of years after I first read it, I wrote a coursework essay about the unreliable narrator, using Lolita and Pale Fire as my primary texts (the latter also by Nabokov). What’s the problem with that? I’m assuming you’ve not read either if you’re getting this outraged, lol

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                • T teppa

                  https://www.alberta.ca/system/files/ec-examples-of-sexual-content-in-school-libraries.pdf

                  Well heres the reference they cited in the law.

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                  floofloof@lemmy.ca
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                  I can see where the censors are coming from, and how they might see these as pornographic, but I think they’ve responded to the surface appearance rather than what’s actually going on in the book.

                  These excerpts are fairly explicit and describe sex acts and being turned on. In that, they resemble porn. But they also tend to be describing teenage sexual discovery in a realistic way, showing how the development of sexual feelings can be tender and complex. If you remove teenagers’ access to these books, what are they left with to help them understand what they’re experiencing? Internet porn and the manosphere? It can be helpful for kids to have access to more nuanced and sensitive materials, even if they are somewhat explicit.

                  So I can see how the censors see this, but I still wouldn’t ban these books just because they contain sexually explicit scenes, and I still think it’s a mistake to classify these as porn.

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                  • S silasmariner@programming.dev

                    Yeah. A couple of years after I first read it, I wrote a coursework essay about the unreliable narrator, using Lolita and Pale Fire as my primary texts (the latter also by Nabokov). What’s the problem with that? I’m assuming you’ve not read either if you’re getting this outraged, lol

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                    randomgal@lemmy.ca
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                    #19

                    Ah. We clearly had different experiences of high school. Lmao.

                    So is it or is not explicit btw? Does it contain ‘detailed and clear depictions of sexual acts, including’? Because you seem to lean into whatever is the opposite of what I say lol. But we’re taking about OP.

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                    • R randomgal@lemmy.ca

                      Ah. We clearly had different experiences of high school. Lmao.

                      So is it or is not explicit btw? Does it contain ‘detailed and clear depictions of sexual acts, including’? Because you seem to lean into whatever is the opposite of what I say lol. But we’re taking about OP.

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                      randomgal@lemmy.ca
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                      Ah. We clearly had different experiences of high school. Lmao.

                      So is it or is not explicit btw? Does it contain detailed and clear descriptions of sexual acts? Because you seem to lean into whatever is the opposite of what I say lol.

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                      • R randomgal@lemmy.ca

                        Ah. We clearly had different experiences of high school. Lmao.

                        So is it or is not explicit btw? Does it contain ‘detailed and clear depictions of sexual acts, including’? Because you seem to lean into whatever is the opposite of what I say lol. But we’re taking about OP.

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                        silasmariner@programming.dev
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                        I mean it’s pretty graphic when he compares her ring to a football pump before going into licking it, but it’s also hilarious

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                        • N notmyoldredditname@lemmy.world

                          Explicit sexual content, defined by the province as detailed and clear depictions of sexual acts, including masturbation, penetration and ejaculation, will not be accessible to students in any grade.

                          also

                          Religious texts, such as the Bible, will be allowed on the shelves.

                          I’m shocked… really, like, i 100% knew that was going to be in there article. So actually, I’m not shocked. Fuck you Alberta.

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                          blametheantifa@lemmy.world
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                          Is Trump still talking about the annexation thing because the US can have Alberta.

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                          • R randomgal@lemmy.ca

                            NGL this sounda like a nothing burger. The news are “Adults Only” books are no longer awolled in schools? What non smutty book even fulfills that criteria?

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                            Carl
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                            The bible is still not removed, which has incest, adultery, more incest with rape, prostitution, more prostitution. I can list more. My question is, what is wrong with regular books, with sex in them?

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                            • ideonekI ideonek

                              All David Gemmells books.

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                              silasmariner@programming.dev
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                              My brother an I came up with ‘Gemmell theory’ which breaks down all his characters by archetype. Female archer, strong willed, ‘manly’ in some regards, yet sexy. Warrior. Has seen some shit, probably had a deal with a demon and/or has a destiny. Bard. Light comic relief. Probably a mate of the warrior. May know a little light magic. You get the idea. I think there are only about 5 archetypes in Gemmell theory.

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                              • S silasmariner@programming.dev

                                I mean it’s pretty graphic when he compares her ring to a football pump before going into licking it, but it’s also hilarious

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                                randomgal@lemmy.ca
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                                I don’t know what to tell you. If this metaphor qualifies as a ‘detailed and clear’ depiction of sex for you, sure I guess? I see what you’re saying in that case.

                                Maybe I’ve just been exposed to more clear and detailed written depictions of sex lol.

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                                • D datavoid@lemmy.ml

                                  Ezekiel 23:20-21

                                  She lusted after lovers with genitals as large as a donkey’s and emissions like those of a horse. And so, Oholibah, you relived your former days as a young girl in Egypt, when you first allowed your breasts to be fondled.

                                  Good thing they have clear standards!

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                                  friend_of_satan@lemmy.world
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                                  The word of god.

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                                    Ezekiel 23:20-21

                                    She lusted after lovers with genitals as large as a donkey’s and emissions like those of a horse. And so, Oholibah, you relived your former days as a young girl in Egypt, when you first allowed your breasts to be fondled.

                                    Good thing they have clear standards!

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                                    canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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                                    They had to explicitly exempt religious texts, lol.

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                                    • N notmyoldredditname@lemmy.world

                                      Explicit sexual content, defined by the province as detailed and clear depictions of sexual acts, including masturbation, penetration and ejaculation, will not be accessible to students in any grade.

                                      also

                                      Religious texts, such as the Bible, will be allowed on the shelves.

                                      I’m shocked… really, like, i 100% knew that was going to be in there article. So actually, I’m not shocked. Fuck you Alberta.

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                                      swagmoney@lemmy.ca
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                                      oh fuck not here too. 🤦‍♂️ we really are just old america aren’t we?

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                                      • S silasmariner@programming.dev

                                        My brother an I came up with ‘Gemmell theory’ which breaks down all his characters by archetype. Female archer, strong willed, ‘manly’ in some regards, yet sexy. Warrior. Has seen some shit, probably had a deal with a demon and/or has a destiny. Bard. Light comic relief. Probably a mate of the warrior. May know a little light magic. You get the idea. I think there are only about 5 archetypes in Gemmell theory.

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                                        ideonek
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                                        Oh for sure. There is of course a gentle-soul warrior that is cursed with killing being his only real talent, and the giant that hide a lot of emotions under surface. Most of his books are very symilar to eachother, to the point that he uses exactly the same comparisons, metaphors and jokes sometimes… I still think he’s a master-writer. Gemmel writing heroic fantasy is like Kubrick directing a porn. Genre is not enough to obscure the genius behind it.

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                                        • N notmyoldredditname@lemmy.world

                                          Explicit sexual content, defined by the province as detailed and clear depictions of sexual acts, including masturbation, penetration and ejaculation, will not be accessible to students in any grade.

                                          also

                                          Religious texts, such as the Bible, will be allowed on the shelves.

                                          I’m shocked… really, like, i 100% knew that was going to be in there article. So actually, I’m not shocked. Fuck you Alberta.

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                                          Maple Engineer
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                                          The Bible contains stories of rape, incest, murder, torture, dashing babies heads on rocks, prostitution, and more. Ban the Bible.

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