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  • S silasmariner@programming.dev

    Lolita, The French Lieutenant’s Woman, IT. All books I read as a teen with explicit sexual content…

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    randomgal@lemmy.ca
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    And you borrowed these books from your school’s library?

    To clarify: You borrowed fucking Lolita from your school’s library? And you want other kids to be able to do the same?

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    • R randomgal@lemmy.ca

      And you borrowed these books from your school’s library?

      To clarify: You borrowed fucking Lolita from your school’s library? And you want other kids to be able to do the same?

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      silasmariner@programming.dev
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      #17

      Yeah. A couple of years after I first read it, I wrote a coursework essay about the unreliable narrator, using Lolita and Pale Fire as my primary texts (the latter also by Nabokov). What’s the problem with that? I’m assuming you’ve not read either if you’re getting this outraged, lol

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      • T teppa

        https://www.alberta.ca/system/files/ec-examples-of-sexual-content-in-school-libraries.pdf

        Well heres the reference they cited in the law.

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        floofloof@lemmy.ca
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        I can see where the censors are coming from, and how they might see these as pornographic, but I think they’ve responded to the surface appearance rather than what’s actually going on in the book.

        These excerpts are fairly explicit and describe sex acts and being turned on. In that, they resemble porn. But they also tend to be describing teenage sexual discovery in a realistic way, showing how the development of sexual feelings can be tender and complex. If you remove teenagers’ access to these books, what are they left with to help them understand what they’re experiencing? Internet porn and the manosphere? It can be helpful for kids to have access to more nuanced and sensitive materials, even if they are somewhat explicit.

        So I can see how the censors see this, but I still wouldn’t ban these books just because they contain sexually explicit scenes, and I still think it’s a mistake to classify these as porn.

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        • S silasmariner@programming.dev

          Yeah. A couple of years after I first read it, I wrote a coursework essay about the unreliable narrator, using Lolita and Pale Fire as my primary texts (the latter also by Nabokov). What’s the problem with that? I’m assuming you’ve not read either if you’re getting this outraged, lol

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          randomgal@lemmy.ca
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          #19

          Ah. We clearly had different experiences of high school. Lmao.

          So is it or is not explicit btw? Does it contain ‘detailed and clear depictions of sexual acts, including’? Because you seem to lean into whatever is the opposite of what I say lol. But we’re taking about OP.

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          • R randomgal@lemmy.ca

            Ah. We clearly had different experiences of high school. Lmao.

            So is it or is not explicit btw? Does it contain ‘detailed and clear depictions of sexual acts, including’? Because you seem to lean into whatever is the opposite of what I say lol. But we’re taking about OP.

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            randomgal@lemmy.ca
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            Ah. We clearly had different experiences of high school. Lmao.

            So is it or is not explicit btw? Does it contain detailed and clear descriptions of sexual acts? Because you seem to lean into whatever is the opposite of what I say lol.

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            • R randomgal@lemmy.ca

              Ah. We clearly had different experiences of high school. Lmao.

              So is it or is not explicit btw? Does it contain ‘detailed and clear depictions of sexual acts, including’? Because you seem to lean into whatever is the opposite of what I say lol. But we’re taking about OP.

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              silasmariner@programming.dev
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              #21

              I mean it’s pretty graphic when he compares her ring to a football pump before going into licking it, but it’s also hilarious

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              • N notmyoldredditname@lemmy.world

                Explicit sexual content, defined by the province as detailed and clear depictions of sexual acts, including masturbation, penetration and ejaculation, will not be accessible to students in any grade.

                also

                Religious texts, such as the Bible, will be allowed on the shelves.

                I’m shocked… really, like, i 100% knew that was going to be in there article. So actually, I’m not shocked. Fuck you Alberta.

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                blametheantifa@lemmy.world
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                #22

                Is Trump still talking about the annexation thing because the US can have Alberta.

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                • R randomgal@lemmy.ca

                  NGL this sounda like a nothing burger. The news are “Adults Only” books are no longer awolled in schools? What non smutty book even fulfills that criteria?

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                  Carl
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                  The bible is still not removed, which has incest, adultery, more incest with rape, prostitution, more prostitution. I can list more. My question is, what is wrong with regular books, with sex in them?

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                  • ideonekI ideonek

                    All David Gemmells books.

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                    silasmariner@programming.dev
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                    #24

                    My brother an I came up with ‘Gemmell theory’ which breaks down all his characters by archetype. Female archer, strong willed, ‘manly’ in some regards, yet sexy. Warrior. Has seen some shit, probably had a deal with a demon and/or has a destiny. Bard. Light comic relief. Probably a mate of the warrior. May know a little light magic. You get the idea. I think there are only about 5 archetypes in Gemmell theory.

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                    • S silasmariner@programming.dev

                      I mean it’s pretty graphic when he compares her ring to a football pump before going into licking it, but it’s also hilarious

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                      randomgal@lemmy.ca
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                      I don’t know what to tell you. If this metaphor qualifies as a ‘detailed and clear’ depiction of sex for you, sure I guess? I see what you’re saying in that case.

                      Maybe I’ve just been exposed to more clear and detailed written depictions of sex lol.

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                      • D datavoid@lemmy.ml

                        Ezekiel 23:20-21

                        She lusted after lovers with genitals as large as a donkey’s and emissions like those of a horse. And so, Oholibah, you relived your former days as a young girl in Egypt, when you first allowed your breasts to be fondled.

                        Good thing they have clear standards!

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                        friend_of_satan@lemmy.world
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                        The word of god.

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                        • D datavoid@lemmy.ml

                          Ezekiel 23:20-21

                          She lusted after lovers with genitals as large as a donkey’s and emissions like those of a horse. And so, Oholibah, you relived your former days as a young girl in Egypt, when you first allowed your breasts to be fondled.

                          Good thing they have clear standards!

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                          canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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                          They had to explicitly exempt religious texts, lol.

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                          • N notmyoldredditname@lemmy.world

                            Explicit sexual content, defined by the province as detailed and clear depictions of sexual acts, including masturbation, penetration and ejaculation, will not be accessible to students in any grade.

                            also

                            Religious texts, such as the Bible, will be allowed on the shelves.

                            I’m shocked… really, like, i 100% knew that was going to be in there article. So actually, I’m not shocked. Fuck you Alberta.

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                            swagmoney@lemmy.ca
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                            oh fuck not here too. 🤦‍♂️ we really are just old america aren’t we?

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                            • S silasmariner@programming.dev

                              My brother an I came up with ‘Gemmell theory’ which breaks down all his characters by archetype. Female archer, strong willed, ‘manly’ in some regards, yet sexy. Warrior. Has seen some shit, probably had a deal with a demon and/or has a destiny. Bard. Light comic relief. Probably a mate of the warrior. May know a little light magic. You get the idea. I think there are only about 5 archetypes in Gemmell theory.

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                              ideonek
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                              Oh for sure. There is of course a gentle-soul warrior that is cursed with killing being his only real talent, and the giant that hide a lot of emotions under surface. Most of his books are very symilar to eachother, to the point that he uses exactly the same comparisons, metaphors and jokes sometimes… I still think he’s a master-writer. Gemmel writing heroic fantasy is like Kubrick directing a porn. Genre is not enough to obscure the genius behind it.

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                              • N notmyoldredditname@lemmy.world

                                Explicit sexual content, defined by the province as detailed and clear depictions of sexual acts, including masturbation, penetration and ejaculation, will not be accessible to students in any grade.

                                also

                                Religious texts, such as the Bible, will be allowed on the shelves.

                                I’m shocked… really, like, i 100% knew that was going to be in there article. So actually, I’m not shocked. Fuck you Alberta.

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                                Maple Engineer
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                                The Bible contains stories of rape, incest, murder, torture, dashing babies heads on rocks, prostitution, and more. Ban the Bible.

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                                • R randomgal@lemmy.ca

                                  I don’t know what to tell you. If this metaphor qualifies as a ‘detailed and clear’ depiction of sex for you, sure I guess? I see what you’re saying in that case.

                                  Maybe I’ve just been exposed to more clear and detailed written depictions of sex lol.

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                                  leftytighty@slrpnk.net
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                                  yes we get it you’re a conservative, you don’t have to prove it by continuing to try to twist facts to match your predetermined worldview

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                                  • L leftytighty@slrpnk.net

                                    yes we get it you’re a conservative, you don’t have to prove it by continuing to try to twist facts to match your predetermined worldview

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                                    randomgal@lemmy.ca
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                                    Did you reply the wrong comment?

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                                    • R randomgal@lemmy.ca

                                      Did you reply the wrong comment?

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                                      leftytighty@slrpnk.net
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                                      ah yes lack of self awareness too

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                                      • L leftytighty@slrpnk.net

                                        ah yes lack of self awareness too

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                                        randomgal@lemmy.ca
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                                        Yikes. Glad I’m taking to a lefty and not to a hateful right winger. Lmao.

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                                        • R randomgal@lemmy.ca

                                          And you borrowed these books from your school’s library?

                                          To clarify: You borrowed fucking Lolita from your school’s library? And you want other kids to be able to do the same?

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                                          wizardoffrobozz@lemmy.ca
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                                          Were you homeschooled by a pigeon? Fuckin hell, I can’t believe people like you exist outside of satire.

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