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'You Buy the Game and You Get the Whole Thing': Judas Dev Not About Live Service

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      donjuanme@lemmy.world
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      I don’t think you should be allowed access to the source code unless the developer wants you back there.

      You don’t buy a hamburger and get to take home the cookware.

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        I don’t think you should be allowed access to the source code unless the developer wants you back there.

        You don’t buy a hamburger and get to take home the cookware.

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        unmagical@lemmy.ml
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        At least with a hamburger you know how to keep making more and the company can’t take it back from you in a year if they don’t sell well.

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        • D donjuanme@lemmy.world

          I don’t think you should be allowed access to the source code unless the developer wants you back there.

          You don’t buy a hamburger and get to take home the cookware.

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          mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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          “Buying the book means you get the book.”

          “What, the author’s notes? Publishing rights? I’m confused because video games are different somehow!”

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          • D donjuanme@lemmy.world

            I don’t think you should be allowed access to the source code unless the developer wants you back there.

            You don’t buy a hamburger and get to take home the cookware.

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            Sam
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            Ingredients are always listed/provided when you purchase food. It’s a legal requirement to protect consumers.

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            • D donjuanme@lemmy.world

              I don’t think you should be allowed access to the source code unless the developer wants you back there.

              You don’t buy a hamburger and get to take home the cookware.

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              lfrith@lemmy.ca
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              Why do people trying to advocate against the movement push the narrative that source code is being asked for or that it is the only solution to make games work after it is sunset?

              Just put in an offline mode like was done for Redfall. https://www.ign.com/articles/redfalls-final-update-is-live-bringing-with-it-offline-mode-dlss-3-and-more

              Knockout City provided tools for gamers to run their own private servers after it shutdown

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              Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League has servers still running but put in an update to provide offline mode

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              And fans have picked up the slack in Hitman with the peacock project when the companies lock certain things to online.

              To reimplement the server side part of Hitman to run locally. So that if/when the official servers go down, anyone can still play the game. They’ve also made it easier/better to mod the game in various ways.

              This includes leaderboards, contracts, game progression and unlocks, bonus/event missions, as well as being able to play elusive targets with scoring. All things that are unavailable when you play offline

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              So that’s what I’m guessing the movement wants. Just to leave the game in a playable state as opposed to inaccessible when servers go down. And source code wasn’t provided for these solutions.

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              • D donjuanme@lemmy.world

                I don’t think you should be allowed access to the source code unless the developer wants you back there.

                You don’t buy a hamburger and get to take home the cookware.

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                Jyek
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                Literally nobody is advocating for the release of source code. Read the damn petition.

                This is very specifically about making sure when you drop support for a product you sold, that it is still usable. Every live service game has testing server files that can be released. Even if those files are a retail product, that’s better than what these people are doing. There is not a single good reason games should be left unplayable after the publisher decides it is no longer profitable to maintain it. Servers do not have to run on the publisher’s dime and there is no longer an expectation for things like anticheat to function once the product reaches the end of expected support. Hundreds of thousands of games have been released and had their support end without taking the playability of the game away from the customer.

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                  I don’t think you should be allowed access to the source code unless the developer wants you back there.

                  You don’t buy a hamburger and get to take home the cookware.

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                  blametheantifa@lemmy.world
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                  I don’t think you should be allowed to access your cars engine unless the manufacturer wants you in there.

                  You don’t buy a hamburger and remove the pickles or add extra ketchup.

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                  • D donjuanme@lemmy.world

                    I don’t think you should be allowed access to the source code unless the developer wants you back there.

                    You don’t buy a hamburger and get to take home the cookware.

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                    stringere@sh.itjust.works
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                    This is either a bad faith argument, trolling, deliberate mischaracterization, or you have seriously misunderstood what you’ve read.

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                      washedupcynic@lemmy.ca
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                      The single player, story-focused rogue-like still remains a mystery, announced for PS5 in December 2022.

                      Dafuq did I just read?

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