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  • B bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world

    fascist

    No he wasnt. And Id argue he was a racist either, as much the out of context quotes make it look like he was.

    Fascist is just another internet buzzword you are all saying because someone else said it. Seriously, go look on conservative boards, they are all calling you fascist for the wrong reasons as much as you call them it for the wrong reason. Wanna know why? Because of the echo chambers you are all stuck in, that keep pumping hate into your ears like a junkie pumps dope.

    Take a big step back, and I promise you. Instead a couple of days, you will feel so much better. This shit aint healthy. And the fact you are gaining joy from the death of a human being and suffering of his wife and children, should be alarming to you.

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    professorozone@lemmy.world
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    #65

    Ummm, he died literally one sentence after blaming gun violence on blacks. I’m pretty sure he was racist.

    I don’t know how the right is justifying calling the left fascists but looking up the definition, and I think defining this is both important and difficult, it is characterized by a strong sense of nationalism. MAGA. Check.

    Concentration of power into a small number of or a single person. TACO. Check.

    Creating an enemy of a segment of the population. Immigrants. Check.

    A capitalist economy subject to strict government controls. Government takes part of nVidea’s profits to allow then to seek secrets chip technology overseas. TACO ordering the fed to let rates. Tariffs. Check.

    Violent suppression of the opposition. I would call the way ICE is working violent and clearly removing people disloyal to Trump’s agenda from the government along with sueing news organizations and admitting that he would take revenge on his political opponents is pretty friggin close. Check.

    A policy of belligerent nationalism and racism. If you can’t see that, then I’ll never convince you. Big check.

    Oppressive dictatorial control. Well let’s see. The right has the house, Senate, the supreme Court, oligarchs, the presidency and the president is acting like a dictator circumventing normal governmental controls. Check.

    Charlie Kirk has been a lightning rod of indoctrination of young people into this philosophy.

    So yeah, fascist.

    The definition comes from the American Heritage Dictionary by the way in addition to other sources. Merriam Webster has a more comprehensive definition. I’d like to see one America DOESN’T match.

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    • S samuelrjankis@sh.itjust.works

      Pierre and Scheer has a lot to say about freedom of speech but get real quiet when Canadians get threatened.

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      kreskin@lemmy.world
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      #66

      “I want to underscore that foreigners who glorify violence and hatred are not welcome visitors to our country,” Landau said in a post on social media platform X.”

      So I guess we’ll be deporting all the zionists then…right?

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      • A anomnomnomaly@lemmy.org

        I never thought I’d hear of a positive school shooting story coming out of the USA

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        kreskin@lemmy.world
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        #67

        theres so many school shootings in the US that it was statistically guaranteed to happen eventually.

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        • B bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world

          Really? “Whatabout…”??? And YOU actually deserve it. Im not on truthsocial, but I am here. And you lot are fucking ghouls, acting just like the very people you say you hate.

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          geedubhayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          #68

          Point at the whatabout in their comment. I’ll wait.

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          • B bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world

            I dont give a fuck about him. I didnt like him. I didnt like the things he said. Doesnt mean I wanted him dead, or that Im glad hes dead, or that Im going to cheer for the death of another human being just because I disagreed with him on political issues. Im not a fucking cunt, like you clearly are.

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            geedubhayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            wrote on last edited by
            #69

            Im not a fucking cunt, like you clearly are.

            To be fair, cunts do possess depth and warmth, two things you’re clearly lacking.

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            • R reannlegge@lemmy.ca

              As and I cannot believe I am applauding what JK said in the tweet. JK is a horrible person through and through.

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              bronzebeard@lemmy.zip
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              #70

              It’s weird that she just called herself a fundamentalist

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              • B bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world

                So theyre assholes, so that means its ok for you to be one too? So if someone rapes your wife, it makes it ok for you to rape theirs? Kind of a weird way to look at it, dont you think?

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                krunklom@lemmy.zip
                wrote on last edited by krunklom@lemmy.zip
                #71

                Does widow baby faschy waschy want a bottle? Did you make a boom boom in your diapey widdle fashy washy baby booboo? Aww you’re a cwanky widdle fascist aren’t oo?

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                • N npcknapsack@lemmy.ca

                  Are they going to start sanctioning individuals all over the world? They did it with the judge in the Bolsonaro case, and it caused problems in Brazil generally. I suppose if they do it to large numbers of people outside of the US, it would end up forcing countries to stop cooperating generally with the US.

                  Side note, by her own definitions, JKR is illiberal. She is a fundamentalist. She is a totalitarian. And she definitely believes that some of her “political” opponents, trans people, should be punished with violence and death. What a telling post.

                  And PP sucks as usual.

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                  kent_eh@lemmy.ca
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #72

                  it would end up forcing countries to stop cooperating generally with the US.

                  Trump’s actions (and those of the people he appointed) have already set that in motion.

                  Governments around the world are making agreements among themselves to avoid doing business with the US.

                  The boycott USA movement is citizen led and is growing across the world.

                  The Americans will find themselves increasingly irrelevant on the world stage, though they may not bother to notice for a while.

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                  • T twopi@lemmy.ca

                    They didn’t do this with the United Healthcare CEO.

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                    twopi@lemmy.ca
                    wrote on last edited by twopi@lemmy.ca
                    #73

                    Respose to worg person

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                    • B bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world

                      The CEO was killed because of an ongoing harm he was doing. Kirk was killed because someone didnt like what he was saying. If you dont see the difference, well, you might be the dumbest cunt on here yet.

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                      twopi@lemmy.ca
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #74

                      The US government does not believe the CEO was doing harm.

                      You distinguish a difference between the two but the US government does not.

                      Furthermore, an insurance claimant (i.e. someone actively being denied healthcare by insurance) was detained for using the words “delay, deny, depose” on the phone. This was under the previous administration. But both administrations agree with the arrest.

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                      • S samuelrjankis@sh.itjust.works

                        Pierre and Scheer has a lot to say about freedom of speech but get real quiet when Canadians get threatened.

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                        Nik282000
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                        #75

                        I fully support and condone republicans shooting other republicans.

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                        • B bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world

                          Yeah, but what it says about you as a human being is far, FAR worse. Youre getting joy, not just from his death, but the suffering of his wife and children. I 100% understand people being ambivalent. But seeing joy in peoples posts and comments is a real mask off moment for the internet.

                          Its like watching Israel commit genocide, and then using the same reasoning that the nazis used on them. Honestly, you all need to check exactly why you are celebrating the death of a human being, just because you dont agree with him. You might just find youve been every bit as radicalised as those you hate.

                          And while you might not be advocating murder, theres many, MANY, more who are. JK herself has had her name bounded about as being “next”. This is what happens when you start cheering for people being murdered. And its high time the “left” started to remember that they have just as many unhinged fuckwits in their ranks as the “right” does.

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                          jellygoose@lemmy.ca
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                          Did you cry when Saddam was executed?

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                          • S samuelrjankis@sh.itjust.works

                            Pierre and Scheer has a lot to say about freedom of speech but get real quiet when Canadians get threatened.

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                            1ostA5tro6yne
                            wrote on last edited by chocosoldier@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                            #77

                            im so fucking tired of “wahhh violence categorically bad.” violence is a tool. there are times and places that it is the appropriate tool to use. like when a totalitarian regime is crystallizing, for example.

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                            • S samuelrjankis@sh.itjust.works

                              Pierre and Scheer has a lot to say about freedom of speech but get real quiet when Canadians get threatened.

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                              c1pher@lemmy.world
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                              #78

                              US can get fucked at this point. They became the thing they swore to destroy -> communist, totalitarian, fundamentalist and no longer “land of the free”, but oppressed.

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                              • c1pher@lemmy.worldC c1pher@lemmy.world

                                US can get fucked at this point. They became the thing they swore to destroy -> communist, totalitarian, fundamentalist and no longer “land of the free”, but oppressed.

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                                ByteOnBikes
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                                #79

                                That’s not true. America was never that good. Since WW2, America has stood for “We’re the best, fuck you”. It’s why America became World Police. The many wars to line their pockets, the selling of arms to violent dictators, causing instability in South America.

                                Land of the free was always warped bullshit. Native Americans knew that forever. Blacks during slavery. Chinese Americans during the gold rush. Japanese Americans in WW2. Most of the US in Vietnam war/Iraq war.

                                America has become “that thing” since forever. But like Brad Pitt, we got good PR to cover all of our abuses. Maybe less now.

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                                • S samuelrjankis@sh.itjust.works

                                  Pierre and Scheer has a lot to say about freedom of speech but get real quiet when Canadians get threatened.

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                                  nocklobster@lemmy.world
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                                  Now I want to spray paint a caricature of the event on the US embassy.

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                                  • c1pher@lemmy.worldC c1pher@lemmy.world

                                    US can get fucked at this point. They became the thing they swore to destroy -> communist, totalitarian, fundamentalist and no longer “land of the free”, but oppressed.

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                                    orioler25@lemmy.ca
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                                    Lmao, the Communist United States. My guy, that’s where fascism comes from. That’s where they make it. It’s always been a genocidal and extractivist state and capitalism emerged through its existence. Ffs their nazis are killed by other nazis because there’s just that fucking many.

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                                    • S samuelrjankis@sh.itjust.works

                                      Pierre and Scheer has a lot to say about freedom of speech but get real quiet when Canadians get threatened.

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                                      theobvioussolution@lemmy.ca
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                                      They know they will lose midterms unless they polarize society beforehand until the only valid viewpoint is the autocracy they are creating. Even though they are inherently incompetent, even experience can beat that incompetence after losing their Iowa supermajority. More and more of them are now inline and are aware of where the country is really heading.

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                                      • c1pher@lemmy.worldC c1pher@lemmy.world

                                        US can get fucked at this point. They became the thing they swore to destroy -> communist, totalitarian, fundamentalist and no longer “land of the free”, but oppressed.

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                                        hertzdentalbar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                        #83

                                        Communist? The fuck you smoking bro.

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                                        • B bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world

                                          The CEO was killed because of an ongoing harm he was doing. Kirk was killed because someone didnt like what he was saying. If you dont see the difference, well, you might be the dumbest cunt on here yet.

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                                          pika@feddit.nl
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                                          Kirk was in a position of power, doing active harm to entire minority groups, including immigrants, trans people, and women. Trans people have lost many of their human rights in the US and immigrants are being kidnapped and sent to torture prisons.

                                          This killing was absolutely active harm reduction.

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