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Valve invents new Counter-Strike 2 loot boxes that successfully dodge anti-gambling regulations

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    and youโ€™re allowed to sell on items for real money of you want.

    Just to be real: You can sell them for Steam Wallet funds, which is not โ€œreal moneyโ€ since it can only be used on Steam.

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    koalaunknown@lemmy.world
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    You can sell them on hundreds of third-party marketplaces that let you withdraw to your bank account or crypto wallet.

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    • K koalaunknown@lemmy.world

      You can sell them on hundreds of third-party marketplaces that let you withdraw to your bank account or crypto wallet.

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      You can do that, but youโ€™re not allowed to do that.

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      • J jjjalljs@ttrpg.network

        Who is buying these skins. I feel like such an alien sometimes. I just canโ€™t understand wanting to spend any money at all on a cosmetic skin

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        koalaunknown@lemmy.world
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        #36

        I wouldnโ€™t spend money on skins in most games but Counter Strike is different. You can buy a skin, use it for years, and then sell it for more than you paid. In fact, skins are actually a very good investment that have historically had less volatility and better returns than stock indexes like the S&P 500.

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          You can do that, but youโ€™re not allowed to do that.

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          koalaunknown@lemmy.world
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          #37

          Valve may not endorse it, but they certainly allow it. In fact, there are many skins that cannot be traded on Steamโ€™s official marketplace, but only on third-party sites due to their high value.

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            Urg, AAA games suck ass more than ever. Thank christ for offline, AA and indie games!

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            alt_xa_23
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            #38

            Get ready for โ€˜AAAAAโ€™ games:

            https://www.pcgamer.com/games/grand-theft-auto/god-help-us-all-gta-6-may-be-a-aaaaa-game-says-devolver-co-founder-and-thats-why-the-entire-industry-is-taking-cover-from-it-like-its-a-nuclear-blast/

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            • K koalaunknown@lemmy.world

              I wouldnโ€™t spend money on skins in most games but Counter Strike is different. You can buy a skin, use it for years, and then sell it for more than you paid. In fact, skins are actually a very good investment that have historically had less volatility and better returns than stock indexes like the S&P 500.

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              jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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              #39

              These skins have 15% returns? That seems dubious but it could be. I donโ€™t think you can sink $300k into skins like you can vanguard, though.

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              • J jjjalljs@ttrpg.network

                These skins have 15% returns? That seems dubious but it could be. I donโ€™t think you can sink $300k into skins like you can vanguard, though.

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                koalaunknown@lemmy.world
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                #40

                I donโ€™t think you can sink $300k into skins like you can vanguard, though.

                There are skins worth millions, so definitely you can.

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                • J jjjalljs@ttrpg.network

                  Who is buying these skins. I feel like such an alien sometimes. I just canโ€™t understand wanting to spend any money at all on a cosmetic skin

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                  psythik@lemmy.world
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                  #41

                  Agreed. The only time Iโ€™ll buy a skin is if it literally improves camouflage. I see no reason to buy a flashy skin that only serves to make you more visible to enemies.

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                  • J jjjalljs@ttrpg.network

                    These skins have 15% returns? That seems dubious but it could be. I donโ€™t think you can sink $300k into skins like you can vanguard, though.

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                    โ„๐•‚-๐Ÿž๐Ÿ
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #42

                    Thatโ€™s the case with a lot of collectibles. LEGO is a great investment but you have to keep it somewhere

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                      ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca
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                      #43

                      Leave it to Valve to find the most predatory monetization possible.

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                        You get to see what youโ€™re paying for before you pay.

                        Yes, for the first box. The box after is not shown. So its basically just โ€žhey, if I open this Box, it could very well be that the next box will be a legendary knifeโ€

                        So you are just betting for what comes after that

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                        aaa@feddit.org
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                        Still the point is you donโ€™t spend money without knowing what you get so it is better. Still predatory, but better

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                        • K koalaunknown@lemmy.world

                          I donโ€™t think you can sink $300k into skins like you can vanguard, though.

                          There are skins worth millions, so definitely you can.

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                          jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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                          #45

                          โ€ฆwho is paying a million dollars for a skin??

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                          • apotheotic (she/her)A apotheotic (she/her)

                            This is pretty disgusting. Just make a normal skin store where people can buy the skins they want at whatever price you(valve) decide they are valued at. No fomo. No gambling.

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                            joshhsoj1902@lemmy.ca
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                            Isnโ€™t that what they did? Except to help preserve the โ€œvalueโ€ if the rare items you still have to get lucky to be allowed to buy them.

                            If they had a store where you could buy the ultra rare skins for 1000$, that would push down the โ€œvalueโ€ if the skins more quickly.

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                              Before this shit existed (like back when the hottest shit was Quake), I thought it might be cool to get a professionally made skin everyone in the game could see for like $0.25-$0.50. A dollar, at most.

                              The first iteration of a system that could have potentially made that a reality, the things youโ€™d actually wanna buy were $25-50. Like who the fuck workshopped these ridiculous prices?

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                              michal@programming.dev
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                              Adjusted for inflation, the price is probably the same ๐Ÿ˜…

                              But seriously they just charge whatever people will pay. Itโ€™s not like itโ€™s free market, if people canโ€™t make their own custom skins.

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                                Isnโ€™t that what they did? Except to help preserve the โ€œvalueโ€ if the rare items you still have to get lucky to be allowed to buy them.

                                If they had a store where you could buy the ultra rare skins for 1000$, that would push down the โ€œvalueโ€ if the skins more quickly.

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                                apotheotic (she/her)
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                                The way they are preserving the value is a form of fomo.

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                                • K koalaunknown@lemmy.world

                                  I wouldnโ€™t spend money on skins in most games but Counter Strike is different. You can buy a skin, use it for years, and then sell it for more than you paid. In fact, skins are actually a very good investment that have historically had less volatility and better returns than stock indexes like the S&P 500.

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                                  Cevilia (she/they/โ€ฆ)
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                                  But you canโ€™t get your money back out. You only get Steam wallet credit when you sell it, right?

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                                  • J jjjalljs@ttrpg.network

                                    These skins have 15% returns? That seems dubious but it could be. I donโ€™t think you can sink $300k into skins like you can vanguard, though.

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                                    noobnarski@lemmy.world
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                                    I bought operation cases for around 100โ‚ฌ 5 years ago, itโ€™s now worth 1000โ‚ฌ

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                                    • J jjjalljs@ttrpg.network

                                      Who is buying these skins. I feel like such an alien sometimes. I just canโ€™t understand wanting to spend any money at all on a cosmetic skin

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                                      spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world
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                                      100%.

                                      Make a fun game. If there are skins, include a handful of good ones with the game and call it a day. Iโ€™m there to have fun playing a game, not to try on outfits.

                                      Maybe Iโ€™m old.

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                                      • P psythik@lemmy.world

                                        Agreed. The only time Iโ€™ll buy a skin is if it literally improves camouflage. I see no reason to buy a flashy skin that only serves to make you more visible to enemies.

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                                        fibojoly@sh.itjust.works
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                                        โ€œCamouflage is the colour of fear.โ€

                                        โ€œWhat the enemy can see, he will soon learn to fearโ€.

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                                        • Cevilia (she/they/โ€ฆ)C Cevilia (she/they/โ€ฆ)

                                          But you canโ€™t get your money back out. You only get Steam wallet credit when you sell it, right?

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                                          appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                          Thatโ€™s where 3rd party trading platforms come in.

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