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Trump again floats Canada joining the U.S. as the 51st state

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  • A apftwb@lemmy.world

    Sorry. He does that some times. We are working on it. Don’t let him inside. Just try to ignore him for now and he might go away.

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    krooklochurm@lemmy.ca
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    Terrible advice.

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    • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

      https://ca.news.yahoo.com/china-explores-arctic-canadas-military-080000109.html

      https://www.politico.eu/article/china-test-express-route-europe-thawing-arctic-climate-change/

      https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/China-Defies-Sanctions-With-Sixth-Russian-Arctic-LNG-Cargo.html

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/tanker-carrying-7th-sanctioned-arctic-lng-2-cargo-berths-at-china-port/ar-AA1NzFoX

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/a-crewed-submersible-has-been-sent-under-the-arctic-s-ice-by-china-for-the-first-time/ar-AA1NxbFR

      https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202509/26/WS68d69107a3108622abca3345_1.html

      https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/china-takes-fourth-cargo-sanctioned-arctic-lng-2-project-2025-09-15/

      https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/russia-vows-china-arctic-beijing-093000190.html

      https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/2192112/canadians-in-north-see-u-s-as-arctic-threat-on-par-with-russia-survey

      https://ca.news.yahoo.com/ottawa-reinstate-arctic-ambassador-faces-090000085.html

      https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdj2v7n0101o

      https://ca.news.yahoo.com/zelenskyy-says-russia-treating-first-131933746.html

      https://ca.news.yahoo.com/north-korean-soldiers-fighting-russia-172137272.html

      https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/30/north-koreas-kim-consoles-families-of-soldiers-killed-fighting-for-russia

      https://www.timescolonist.com/world-news/us-confirms-north-korea-has-sent-3000-troops-to-russia-for-training-and-possible-ukraine-combat-9697072

      https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/a-secret-no-more-russia-and-n-koreas-battle-against-ukraine-is-celebrated-in-moscow-exhibit/ar-AA1NAw6I

      https://www.newsweek.com/putin-kim-north-korea-russia-ukraine-war-troops-2123565

      https://www.newsweek.com/north-korea-un-nuclear-weapons-10804386

      https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/rest-of-world/south-korea-fires-warning-shots-to-repel-north-korean-vessel-breaching-sea-boundary/articleshow/124143731.cms

      https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/north-korea-accuses-south-serious-012558461.html

      https://www.bostonherald.com/2025/08/18/koreas-tensions-military-drills/

      https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/top-diplomats-of-north-korea-and-china-agree-to-deepen-ties-and-push-back-at-the-united-states/ar-AA1NwmVA

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-is-helping-prepare-china-to-attack-taiwan-documents-suggest/ar-AA1NlU2B

      https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/how-russia-helping-china-prepare-seize-taiwan

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-is-helping-china-prepare-to-attack-taiwan-rusi-report-says/ar-AA1NnKAV

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-helping-china-prepare-for-war-with-taiwan-leaked-documents-say/ar-AA1NoQdI

      https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/classified-us-intelligence-warns-of-chinas-preparations-for-taiwan-invasion/ar-AA1Ntq2e

      https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/36877397/jets-attack-run-navy-warship/

      https://www.ft.com/content/1b55899f-ff05-47ff-b1d0-53c8f5199a11

      https://finance.yahoo.com/news/mainland-chinas-security-focus-may-093000728.html

      https://www.ipolitics.ca/2025/09/18/canada-ready-to-perform-mass-evacuation-of-taiwan-in-case-of-chinese-invasion-officials/

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/xi-pushes-trump-to-oppose-taiwan-independence-in-major-shift/ar-AA1NuO5h

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/09/17/taiwan-issues-handbook-prepare-china-invasion/

      https://ca.news.yahoo.com/name-trump-goes-offense-label-172359570.html

      https://ca.news.yahoo.com/why-trump-renaming-defense-department-140151814.html

      https://nationalpost.com/news/world/donald-trump-department-of-war

      https://www.ctvnews.ca/video/2025/09/06/trump-swaps-department-of-defense-for-department-of-war/

      https://torontosun.com/news/world/trump-rebrands-department-of-defense-as-department-of-war

      https://globalnews.ca/news/11457588/donald-trump-canada-51st-state-us-military/

      https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/canada-to-boost-indonesia-exports-to-diversify-non-us-trade-says-minister/ar-AA1NfbcM

      https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-canada-mexico-strategic-partnership-carney-sheinbaum-trade/

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-says-portland-is-war-ravaged-here-s-what-to-know/ar-AA1NC6IP

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/senate-democrat-urges-trump-to-stay-away-from-portland-after-troop-deployment/ar-AA1NCym1

      https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/pentagon-calls-up-200-national-guard-troops-after-trump-portland-announcement/ar-AA1NvIBj

      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/oregon-sues-trump-administration-deployment-national-guard-troops-port-rcna234307

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/portland-s-city-leaders-and-residents-are-pushing-back-against-ice-now-trump-is-sending-in-troops/ar-AA1NrVbY

      https://upolitics.com/news/oregon-sues-over-trumps-deployment-of-national-guard-troops-in-portland-to-protect-their-sovereignty/

      https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/other/trump-to-deploy-troops-to-portland-oregon-in-crackdown-on-immigration-protests/ar-AA1Nq2A3

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-authorizes-military-to-use-full-force-in-portland/ar-AA1Nqjpw

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-forays-into-nato-airspace-are-causing-alarm-heres-why-they-might-be-happening/ar-AA1NkE1r

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-aircraft-invaded-two-nato-members-in-two-weeks-what-are-we-going-to-do-about-it/ar-AA1NcpTu

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-addresses-world-leaders-at-un-three-years-into-ukraine-invasion/ar-AA1NpF61

      https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/fears-of-russian-invasion-of-nato-country-is-imminent-after-500-drones-spotted/ar-AA1Nmu4K

      https://euroweeklynews.com/2025/09/19/unprecedentedly-brazen-three-russian-migs-invade-estonian-nato-airspace/

      https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/other/nato-warns-russia-it-will-use-necessary-tools-to-defend-against-airspace-breaches/ar-AA1N8nfX

      https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/estonia-airspace-russia-1.7638294

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/at-unsc-meeting-west-and-russia-clash-over-nato-airspace-violations/ar-AA1N61Th

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/poland-briefly-closes-airspace-as-nato-increases-presence-in-the-baltic-sea/ar-AA1NrLyL

      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-28/russian-foreign-minister-sergey-lavrov-warns-nato-europe-at-unga/105825572

      https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/nato-warns-russia-it-will-use-all-means-to-defend-against-airspace-breaches-after-estonia-incursions/ar-AA1N823n

      https://www.rte.ie/news/ukraine/2025/0919/1534360-estonia-russian-jets/

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/europe-no-longer-at-peace-with-russia-germanys-merz-says/ar-AA1Nz24q

      https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/poland-drones-shot-down-1.7629795

      Happy reading! 🙂

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      krooklochurm@lemmy.ca
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      Wow.

      Sourced.

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      • K krooklochurm@lemmy.ca

        What the fuck are you talking about?

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        humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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        We don’t need a golden dome. The only country that will ever be a threat to us is US. If the US wants a golden dome they need to pay us to help with shielding their pure evil.

        The other lie is that “its free if Canada gets burdened by huge US historical debt” (all resulting from department of war)

        That there is no leader or media in Canada explaining this basic reality to Canadians proves our colonial status and our brainwashing to desperate slavery.

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        • S sirmaple__@lemmy.ca

          Not going to happen.

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          formfiller@lemmy.world
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          Can the west coast, Hawaii and upper east coast of America become Canadian provinces?

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          • T tigeroovy@lemmy.ca

            I’ll go back to the US when Trump and his cronies are dead.

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            puppinstuff@lemmy.ca
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            I’m pretty much done for life unless there’s a Nuremberg-style event for all the ICE cosplayers. Trump is only the tip of the iceberg there’s so much more trouble waiting in the depths.

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            • S sirmaple__@lemmy.ca

              Not going to happen.

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              acargitz
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              #83

              I would gladly welcome New England as our 11th Province and Cascadia as our 12th.

              Even better, I would love to see a balkanized USA. The current monster is a sclerotic ossified polity incapable of adapting and changing. They have created such a strong central government that everything is a cosmic battle between 2 megatribes and they all hang from the balls of 3 swing SCOTUS justices, 5 swing state senators and 1 crazy POTUS. That’s an insane concentration of power.

              The US is just too coupled for what it is. An EU-style semi-autonomous decoupling would make everyone that much happier: when Slovenia adopts weird gender rules, Portugal can just shrug and continue. Hungary gets to cosplay Frankoism while Spain sends ships to protect the Gaza Flotilla.

              So, the US could happily break into some sane set of (10-20) self-coherent countries that can freely experiment with their laws, political cultures structures and constitutions. Let’s also get an independent Quebec in there for good measure, and let’s have an EU-like loose confederation with freedom of movement from the Darién Gap to the Arctic Ocean.

              For fuck’s sake.

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              • F formfiller@lemmy.world

                Can the west coast, Hawaii and upper east coast of America become Canadian provinces?

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                alsimoneau@lemmy.ca
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                No. Secede and make your own country.

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                • B blametheantifa@lemmy.world

                  You get Alberta, we get the west coast. Deal?

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                  alsimoneau@lemmy.ca
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                  #85

                  Better deal, the Albertans that want out get out, and the US explodes into multiple countries.

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                  • T theobvioussolution@lemmy.ca

                    He’s not kidding. The whole “no rules of engagement” speech by Hegseth, Canada should be preparing a drone army by now, Ukraine style.

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                    acargitz
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                    Abso-fucking-lutely. Ukraine has shown the 20th century military doctrines to be dead and has shown how smaller countries can fuck up bigger ones with drone warfare. Canada needs this and I’m not even a militarist.

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                    • acargitzT acargitz

                      I would gladly welcome New England as our 11th Province and Cascadia as our 12th.

                      Even better, I would love to see a balkanized USA. The current monster is a sclerotic ossified polity incapable of adapting and changing. They have created such a strong central government that everything is a cosmic battle between 2 megatribes and they all hang from the balls of 3 swing SCOTUS justices, 5 swing state senators and 1 crazy POTUS. That’s an insane concentration of power.

                      The US is just too coupled for what it is. An EU-style semi-autonomous decoupling would make everyone that much happier: when Slovenia adopts weird gender rules, Portugal can just shrug and continue. Hungary gets to cosplay Frankoism while Spain sends ships to protect the Gaza Flotilla.

                      So, the US could happily break into some sane set of (10-20) self-coherent countries that can freely experiment with their laws, political cultures structures and constitutions. Let’s also get an independent Quebec in there for good measure, and let’s have an EU-like loose confederation with freedom of movement from the Darién Gap to the Arctic Ocean.

                      For fuck’s sake.

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                      humanspiral@lemmy.ca
                      wrote on last edited by humanspiral@lemmy.ca
                      #87

                      State politicians are as much pussies as Canadian ones, so it will take time for everyone to grow a spine, but the US is certain to collapse, and the easiest path to collapse is state run tax strikes and secession. Normally fair secession involves a fair division of assets and liabilities. Fascist department of war invasions of states and cities, and fascist defunding attacks on blue states while propping up red state industries with tariffs at expense of every consumer gives a declaration of war pretense for immediate secession of all cooperation with zionazi/oligarchist regime. The zionazi/oligarchist grip on state politicians allied with national parties makes them pussies, just as the CIA forces all of our politicians to be pussies.

                      The dissolution of the US will come as a loophole to cancel all of its debt. One state going on a tax strike or seceding is an extra straw on the camel’s (already trembling) back, and war against that state would be a further straw. Obvious to all that disolving the union and starting over makes much more sense than “peacefully accepting their share of zionazi debt”. Any division or internal war is unsustainable for US.

                      Canada and China can greatly help with refederation of US states. It would be good for Canada to welcome US states. Market access to China is good for any new federation. If protecting a domestic auto industry makes sense, then Michigan being part of Canada makes sense. Agriculture sector in Canada has pressured Ottawa to stop being stupid. Most red states are dying due to 0 agriculture sales. US climate terrorism for Skynet is going to make electricity scarce for Americans. Forcing blue states to be extorted by red state energy, and narrow purple state tariff subsidies, requires complete zionazi slave pussies gaslighting their people to tolerate and sustain.

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                      • S sirmaple__@lemmy.ca

                        Not going to happen.

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                        hastur@lemmy.ca
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                        rather be dead than american, and unlike the pussies in the US, I’ll fight to keep my way of life

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                        • S sirmaple__@lemmy.ca

                          Not going to happen.

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                          grey_maniac@lemmy.ca
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                          One good thing coming out of this rhetoric is many of us are getting back into full combat fitness.

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                          • M masterofn001

                            Just make sure you get a few on the way out.

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                            rabber@lemmy.ca
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                            I’m a pro drone pilot so won’t be an issue there

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                            • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksS samus12345@sh.itjust.works

                              Why does he think ALL of Canada should be a single state, anyway?

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                              npcknapsack@lemmy.ca
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                              I’m pretty sure Alberta would be its own state. But the rest of Canada is way too liberal for him to give us separate representation.

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                              • S sirmaple__@lemmy.ca

                                Not going to happen.

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                                idontcare@lemmynsfw.com
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                                I wanted to leave the US for canada. Shit like this makes me think that fucking orange twat will just start shit with Canada when he gets bored down here.

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                                • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksS samus12345@sh.itjust.works

                                  Why does he think ALL of Canada should be a single state, anyway?

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                                  phutatorius@lemmy.zip
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                                  Because he started out stupid, then caught the dementia.

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                                  • H humanspiral@lemmy.ca

                                    Just because its been written doesn’t mean its remotely true. “Evil China is interested in the Arctic” does not mean China has entered Canadian waters. They don’t need to to go to Europe. Nothing ever said about Russia has any motive of truth behind it. The drones BS over Denmark is obvious false flag. The ones that went to Poland came from Ukrainian airspace. The propaganda level is absurdly high, and your mind distorts it even stronger. Reading more cannot cure disinformation if you trust the sources.

                                    But, again, in your mind whether rational or warped, you need to use Canadian forces to amplify US ambitions in ww3, don’t you? There is nothing that makes you understand the US side is the threat?

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                                    phutatorius@lemmy.zip
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                                    Nothing ever said about Russia has any motive of truth behind it.

                                    “Ukraine has been bombing itself to make Putin look bad!”

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                                    • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksS samus12345@sh.itjust.works

                                      Why does he think ALL of Canada should be a single state, anyway?

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                                      brax@sh.itjust.works
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                                      Because then he’d only have to deal with one puppet to get all the resources

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                                      • P phutatorius@lemmy.zip

                                        Nothing ever said about Russia has any motive of truth behind it.

                                        “Ukraine has been bombing itself to make Putin look bad!”

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                                        humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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                                        Ukraine, as a nazi US puppet, did start the war. Everyone lying about that will lie about everything else to diminish Russia.

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                                        • R rabber@lemmy.ca

                                          I’m a pro drone pilot so won’t be an issue there

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                                          masterofn001
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                                          Are they susceptible to jamming or other electronic fuckery?

                                          Are there defenses against such?

                                          How much can they carry and how painful could the payload be?

                                          Would you rather : magnesium, phosphor, napalm, and water in separate glass jars

                                          Or

                                          A great big kaboom?

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