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Windows Games’ Compatibility on Linux Is at an All-Time High

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  • 4 4am@lemmy.zip

    WINE stands for “WINE Is Not an Emulator”; they’re not reimplementing Microsoft libraries. No patents to violate.

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    ripcord@lemmy.world
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    That’s not how it works, but ok

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    • D derpenheim@lemmy.zip

      Im not sure how they even would make a testing framework. Its not like windows, where you have the os as standard and then just swap parts to see.

      Its so fragmented the amount of combinations is mind-boggling. I guess they choose the 3 most popular and just run a limited series of hardware tests?

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      4am@lemmy.zip
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      Really the only factors in software are kernel and compatibility layer. Everything else is not a huge factor in Linux; this is mostly akin to saying “we need to test games with every different windows app running in the background”.

      Of course for individual machines there will be external factors that users themselves need to consider (like don’t be doing Blender renders in the background lol) but there should be a huge difference between distros.

      Perhaps custom desktop managers should be tested along with KDE and GNOME, but I’m honestly not sure much even those factor in.

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      • ripcord@lemmy.worldR ripcord@lemmy.world

        At what point does Microsoft start suing over patents?

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        whiskytangofoxtrot@lemmy.world
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        2003

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        • Cevilia (she/they/…)C Cevilia (she/they/…)

          My wife plays it. She’s on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS (so I’d expect it to work on Mint too), installed it through Bottles, and it just worked. I’m on Kubuntu 25.10 and I’ve had it running but haven’t actually played it.

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          fauxliving@lemmy.world
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          I was looking into this, it’s weird that it isn’t on ProtonDB

          Future Linux Converts:

          If you wonder “Will the game that I play work on Linux?”, there’s a website for that:

          favicon

          (www.protondb.com)

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          • G gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world

            There are Anti-Cheats that work just not one or two of the truly invasive ones. I’m able to play games like the Finals or Arc Raiders or CSGO or DOTA or World of Tanks or Insurgency or Battlebit without issue. I can’t play some multiplayer games owned by EA. It’s largely coming down to company lines based on what Anti-Cheat they’ve decided to go with.

            It used to be not all games worked on Linux. Now it’s most games work and there’s a handful that don’t for one reason or the other (like Anti-Cheat).

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            altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            And Vermintide 2, using EAC, just ticked the box to not being hostile towards Linux, and it just works now. Hated Denuvo works too. There’s now a minority of games that don’t play ball with penguins.

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            • P profthadbach@lemmy.world

              I am getting ready to switch and I play City of Heroes on Homecoming and wonder of anyone here has it running and what destro you are using. I ahve Mint on two laptops and they are running fine will all my other programs

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              luhimewired@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              Yes! I just installed the game through Lutris!

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              • D derpenheim@lemmy.zip

                Im not sure how they even would make a testing framework. Its not like windows, where you have the os as standard and then just swap parts to see.

                Its so fragmented the amount of combinations is mind-boggling. I guess they choose the 3 most popular and just run a limited series of hardware tests?

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                damage@feddit.it
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                From the video it looks like they’ll test on Bazzite, it’s probably more stable than Windows for that, just choose a snapshot and it’ll always be the same

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                • 4 4am@lemmy.zip

                  Didn’t they just announce this? Or are they still deciding on the “how” and not the “if”?

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                  sheogorath@lemmy.world
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                  They’ve announced their testing methodology and are testing games IIRC. They’re using Bazzite as the base.

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                  • despoticruinD despoticruin

                    It’s not one big optimization, it’s a product of Id actually having some of the best UE developers on the planet being able to tweak the engine to run like a beast. Each level is crafted from the ground up to allow for some sweeping optimizations revolving around actor loading and culling, and the game uses proper light baking to allow raytracing to handle marginal calculations instead of explicit path tracing every shadow. It’s a lot of little things that all take impressive amounts of skill and management to pull off effectively, a lot of this stuff is implemented poorly in other games and it show

                    Edit: Id has their own engine, I always confuse quake/doom and UE. Still though, Id has always built games that were well optimized. Look at some of the systems they managed to port quake to. I was wrong about the engine, but not about the talent in the studio.s.

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                    uninvitedguest
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                    it’s a product of Id actually having some of the best UE developers on the planet

                    UE = Unreal Engine?

                    Doom 2016 ran on id tech 6. Is there crossover?

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                      psycotica0@lemmy.ca
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                      I think it’s funny that, with reports that Proton games often run better on Linux than Windows, the entire Windows OS is sort of a weird Linux gaming API now…

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                      • U uninvitedguest

                        it’s a product of Id actually having some of the best UE developers on the planet

                        UE = Unreal Engine?

                        Doom 2016 ran on id tech 6. Is there crossover?

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                        despoticruin
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                        No, you are correct, I have a bad habit of confusing quake and UE, Carmack and Sweeney tend to come up in the same conversations. My point still stands though, Id has always pushed the envelope on game optimization.

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                        • U ugurcan@lemmy.world

                          To Windows people wondering:

                          JUST DO THE JUMP. Installing Bazzite only needs a 16GB flash drive and 15 minutes of time, and you’ll be SHOCKED how smooth everything goes compared to Windows bloat.

                          And you don’t even need to give up on Windows! You can keep it on dual boot until you realize you didn’t touched Windows even once over the last 6 months.

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                          AwesomeLowlander
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                          I’ve been using Linux for a really long time, but the thumbdrive idea might inspire me to get it up and running on my wife’s laptop!

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                          • U ugurcan@lemmy.world

                            To Windows people wondering:

                            JUST DO THE JUMP. Installing Bazzite only needs a 16GB flash drive and 15 minutes of time, and you’ll be SHOCKED how smooth everything goes compared to Windows bloat.

                            And you don’t even need to give up on Windows! You can keep it on dual boot until you realize you didn’t touched Windows even once over the last 6 months.

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                            benaaasaaas@group.lt
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                            Hey, not fair, I still need to migrate some of the old photos of my windows partition and it’s only been 2 years…

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                            • Z zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                              Developers should still try to optimize Linux performance with native Linux ports.

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                              vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de
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                              windows does add a bit of value. It is a set of apis that the oss community can’t just decide to deprecate and think it’s fine because “all the code needs is a recompilation!”.

                              I have not had a single native linux port %hat is out of support and still works 100%. The most reliable option for me so far is to just run the windows version.

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                              • 4 4am@lemmy.zip

                                Didn’t they just announce this? Or are they still deciding on the “how” and not the “if”?

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                                biofaust@lemmy.world
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                                There is a video made in collab with Wendell who suggested a few distros and listed what can go wrong, but as far as I know, no established testing framework yet.

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                                • O onlinepersona@programming.dev

                                  I can’t wait to see their content on the fediverse. They made a video about getting away from big tech but don’t mirror their stuff here. I think it’s a damn shame.

                                  They could even host their own instances.

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                                  biofaust@lemmy.world
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                                  They post on Rumble, I think that’s what they meant.

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                                    hayvan@feddit.nl
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                                    LiNuX HaS nO gAmEs!

                                    LInUx iS fReE iF yOu’rE(sic) tImE iS wOrThLeEsS!

                                    LiNuX hAz No DrIvErZz!

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                                      onnekas@sopuli.xyz
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                                      Calling it an “All Time High” is a bit silly when the compatibility of games has (more or less) only increased over the years. But yeah it’s nice that number goes up! 🙂

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                                        drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works
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                                        My age is also at an all time high

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                                        • U ugurcan@lemmy.world

                                          To Windows people wondering:

                                          JUST DO THE JUMP. Installing Bazzite only needs a 16GB flash drive and 15 minutes of time, and you’ll be SHOCKED how smooth everything goes compared to Windows bloat.

                                          And you don’t even need to give up on Windows! You can keep it on dual boot until you realize you didn’t touched Windows even once over the last 6 months.

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                                          glorkon@lemmy.world
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                                          Yup. Or CachyOS. Or EndeavourOS.

                                          I’m currently happily replaying Skyrim on my EndeavourOS installation.

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