I’d love to see the malcontents just leave. Nothing’s stipping them from moving south like they all seem to want to.

It’s not like they can just walk off with the land. Most of it is treaty land

The number goes down below 10 when asked if they’d want to separate if the Conservatives had won the federal election. They’re just angy at the libs. When push comes to shove they will vote it down.

As an Albertan, I would do the same - but charge them for the ride.

There is no independant state. The choice is be part of Canada or be part of the US, and I’m not sure what in Trump’s record make people think he would treat Canadians any better than Russia treats Ukranians

If they want to become Americans so bad, they can always move South and apply for citizenship.

What they can’t do, is take the land with them.

For le sakes du phoque

But throw them in Alaska, no where near a road or border town

Referendums and the specific topic is a bit different. But I think looking at Trump and America should make people very wary of what having 30% of the population as fanatics can do.

It gets more worrying

I would like to hear a firsthand experience on the last point however.

They don’t get the land. All they get are plane tickets.

Thank god that first-past-the-post could give 39% or less full control of the provincial government.

I’ve posted about this before, but I’ve been out with coworkers for a beer before and had the exact conversation on the “rest of Canada not caring” point about O&G jobs in Alberta. I’m originally from Ontario so I could chime in on that perspective for them.

The conversation was mostly geared towards them thinking the Albertan economy is “floating” the rest of Canada. When I brought up the size of Toronto and Montreal and the industries just in those two cities they brushed it off. So I took a different tactic, I started asking them if they cared about manufacturing jobs in Quebec, or fishery jobs in the maritimes or automotive jobs in Ontario. Unsurprisingly they said they didn’t know / care and that those jobs weren’t as numerous / important as O&G.

I ended it with saying, people care about Alberta as much as you care about Ontario, Quebec, BC, the Maritimes which is essentially zilch. I’m not sure if I got through to them but one guy actually said “somehow this seems worse”. I just said “really Alberta doesn’t register in most Canadians radars unless negatively”.

They also genuinely couldn’t understand why folks out east or in BC don’t want pipelines or further O&G investment in their provinces.

Do it. And then when it gets, at most, 30% of the vote you’ll have shot your wad and no one will give a shit about it for another generation. At least with Québec it’ll be closer to 50%.

The real danger is voter apathy, with Albertans figuring there’s no way separation will win based on the high number of sigs on the petition so they don’t bother voting, much like Brexit.

The last AB referendum showed 38.7% of eligible voters voted. If that number holds the same, and your number of 30% want to separate is correct, it’s over. Every single traitor is going to vote, which could result in a landslide separatist win with 77% of voters voting to separate.

Unless you care about seals, you are likely looking for something closer to “va faire foutre tes seins”, go fuck your tits.

I’m sure the Albertans are aware how well this sort of thing turned out for the UK, right?

…Albertans are aware…

Good point.

That would be ideal.

Please no. Those of us that aren’t right wing shit stains are doing everything they can to reign in the MAGA bullshit here in the USA. We don’t need more MAGA trash. How about putting them on a rocket to mars?