Thank god that first-past-the-post could give 39% or less full control of the provincial government.

I’ve posted about this before, but I’ve been out with coworkers for a beer before and had the exact conversation on the “rest of Canada not caring” point about O&G jobs in Alberta. I’m originally from Ontario so I could chime in on that perspective for them.

The conversation was mostly geared towards them thinking the Albertan economy is “floating” the rest of Canada. When I brought up the size of Toronto and Montreal and the industries just in those two cities they brushed it off. So I took a different tactic, I started asking them if they cared about manufacturing jobs in Quebec, or fishery jobs in the maritimes or automotive jobs in Ontario. Unsurprisingly they said they didn’t know / care and that those jobs weren’t as numerous / important as O&G.

I ended it with saying, people care about Alberta as much as you care about Ontario, Quebec, BC, the Maritimes which is essentially zilch. I’m not sure if I got through to them but one guy actually said “somehow this seems worse”. I just said “really Alberta doesn’t register in most Canadians radars unless negatively”.

They also genuinely couldn’t understand why folks out east or in BC don’t want pipelines or further O&G investment in their provinces.

Do it. And then when it gets, at most, 30% of the vote you’ll have shot your wad and no one will give a shit about it for another generation. At least with Québec it’ll be closer to 50%.

The real danger is voter apathy, with Albertans figuring there’s no way separation will win based on the high number of sigs on the petition so they don’t bother voting, much like Brexit.

The last AB referendum showed 38.7% of eligible voters voted. If that number holds the same, and your number of 30% want to separate is correct, it’s over. Every single traitor is going to vote, which could result in a landslide separatist win with 77% of voters voting to separate.

Unless you care about seals, you are likely looking for something closer to “va faire foutre tes seins”, go fuck your tits.

I’m sure the Albertans are aware how well this sort of thing turned out for the UK, right?

…Albertans are aware…

Good point.

That would be ideal.

Please no. Those of us that aren’t right wing shit stains are doing everything they can to reign in the MAGA bullshit here in the USA. We don’t need more MAGA trash. How about putting them on a rocket to mars?

Way, WAY South into an already deeply red state where they can’t do any more damage to our painfully dying country, please.

What money are they going to use? How could this end up any other way than Alberta becoming Nigeria North? If they think Daddy Trump is going to save them, i have a handful of bankrupt casinos to sell them.

If Alberta leaves Canada, they’ll never be allowed to vote for anything, ever again.

To CECOT

What would happen to Canadians, born in Alberta, who live in other parts of Canada?

That’s why this whole movement is fucked. The people who back this just think they’re keeping Canada afloat.

So what if they are? That’s called “sharing” and Canada is a vast country. The benefits of being Canadian far outweigh the costs to the Province of Alberta.

If Alberta was a country, it would be like Nigeria. I’m pretty sure even the most die hard maple MAGAt would ratjer be in present day Alberta than Nigeria.

Their bigotry is blinding them to the fact that they would actually become a minority group they despise.

Albertans really need to look closely at Puerto Rico and the CNMI, because that’s their American future. If they think America is going to treat them as equals because they’re white, they’re even dumber than i could have ever imagined.

The big thing i’ve found to be problematic in Alberta isn’t apathy, but that young people tend to vote the same way their parents (and grandparents) vote, without actually learning anything about where politicians lean these days.

Nobody is doing the research and learning that the Conservatives these days are actually more like Adolf Hitler than Peter Lougheed.

I would vote for Peter Lougheed if I could, but i can’t vote for these corporate fascists.

I wish older Albertans could see this, but they’re not putting in the work anymore. They have their beds in their assisted care homes and don’t realize they’re the last that will get that.

Or, even worse, they get it…and just don’t care.

What is an “Albertan”? Cars have existed longer than Alberta has. We’re all immigrants.

I know someone who wanted to legally change his name to “Wayne Gretzky” and then run for Premier. He thought most Albertans wouldn’t do the work and figure out he wasn’t actually Wayne Gretzky, and i think he was right.