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Oh, good: Discord's age verification rollout has ties to Palantir co-founder and panopticon architect Peter Thiel

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  • S sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com

    Fucking obviously duh, of course it does.

    Why does anybody give any kind of benefit of doubt to the class of wealthy rapists that run society and most of its institutions?

    They’re rapists.

    They’ll rape your money, your data, your attention, your energy, your time, anything they can either groom you into letting them take, or just take it by force.

    And/or, if you’re ‘lucky’, they’ll just literally rape you physically.

    These people are all violent sociopaths and need to be either euthanized or quarantined from society.

    Imagine SexPestiny.

    There ya go, thats all of these goddamned people.

    Machiavellian, manipulative, beyond amoral into just actually evil, not actually very smart, they just happen to have money.

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    Diplomjodler
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    #60

    Power corrupts. Ultimate power corrupts ultimately. Story as old as time. That’s something the people should understand that think you can cure authoritarianism with authoritarianism, as long as you follow the one true holy book.

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    • ProdigalFrogP ProdigalFrog

      That’s certainly unfortunate that it isn’t giving you a useful error. I’m not sure why it says that. I tried creating an account there with a similar username to yours, and it was created no problem on the main movim.eu instance.

      Are you using a VPN?

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      marthirial@lemmy.world
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      #61

      Are you using a VPN?

      That shouldn’t factor in any way with web tech just as the color of my underwear doesn’t.

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      • DiplomjodlerD Diplomjodler

        Power corrupts. Ultimate power corrupts ultimately. Story as old as time. That’s something the people should understand that think you can cure authoritarianism with authoritarianism, as long as you follow the one true holy book.

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        sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        wrote last edited by sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        #62

        Well a lot of those people are just fundamentally taught that anything Sky Daddy does quite literally is the very concept of good and just, and seem to be genuinely incapable of their own independent moral reasoning.

        I know because that is how I was raised, good thing I’m more curious and inquisitive than I am blindly faithful.

        We’ve got something around a third of the US that is ready and eager to install some kind of an overt theocracy, if you haven’t heard of the Seven Mountains movement/concept look it up.

        These people are fundamentally driven by irrational delusions and falsities and lies and obvious logical paradoxes, all plastered over with ‘faith’ that simply serves as a justification for hatred and bigotry.

        I know not all religious people are like this, many of them are much more reasonable.

        But we have ya’ll qaeda here at home, and they will destroy everything they do not understand if they are not countered.

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        • ProdigalFrogP ProdigalFrog

          The fascist noose is tightening the world over thanks to proprietary big tech. We have to escape now while we can to open-source alternatives.

          Currently the best private (encrypted) and federated Discord alternative is Movim, which I highly recommend people switch to as soon as possible (the Dev is currently working on discord-like channels with rooms).

          For a more complete guide to swapping proprietary apps for safe open-source ones, I suggest referring to this post: https://slrpnk.net/post/23012609

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          k0e3@lemmy.ca
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          Am I supposed to bookmark the website on Android to use Movim?

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          • V visstix@lemmy.world

            Yeah they control everything. Not much to do about it.

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            k0e3@lemmy.ca
            wrote last edited by
            #64

            There are literally much to do about it, but ok.

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            • thingsiplay@lemmy.mlT thingsiplay@lemmy.ml

              This? https://matrixrooms.info/ I don’t use it myself, didn’t use Matrix for a long time now.

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              arandomturkishguy@lemmy.world
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              #65

              Thank you man.

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              • K k0e3@lemmy.ca

                There are literally much to do about it, but ok.

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                visstix@lemmy.world
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                #66

                Could yeah. But that ain’t happening.

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                • N nomy@lemmy.zip

                  Imagine allowing your social life to be paywalled by a billionaire.

                  No wonder they just keep trying to fuck us, a whole bunch of people are on their knees with their mouths open.

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                  visstix@lemmy.world
                  wrote last edited by
                  #67

                  You want me to move to some open source bullshit that nobody uses? For what? If there’s a better alternative than discord sure.

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                  • K k0e3@lemmy.ca

                    Am I supposed to bookmark the website on Android to use Movim?

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                    cafefrog@lemmy.cafe
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                    #68

                    It’s a PWA, so you should be able to open your browser menu and click ‘add to homescreen’ to make it feel more like a dedicated app.

                    There are also dedicated XMPP apps for Android and iOS that aren’t yet as full-featured as Movim, but are still compatible with the parts that are implemented (usually all the texting and calling parts, but maybe not video or screensharing).

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                    • T thethrilloftime69

                      Dude I just spent 10 mins trying to get the thing to let me make an account. It kept saying my username didn’t fit the format requirements, but then didn’t tell me what the format requirements were.

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                      cafefrog@lemmy.cafe
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                      #69

                      Try creating an account here, then use that login to log into the Movim (you can use any XMPP/Jabber account created anywhere to log into any open Movim instance, similar to how any Lemmy user can use their account to login to the Photon front-end).

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                      • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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                        #70

                        fuck discord

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                        • ProdigalFrogP ProdigalFrog

                          The fascist noose is tightening the world over thanks to proprietary big tech. We have to escape now while we can to open-source alternatives.

                          Currently the best private (encrypted) and federated Discord alternative is Movim, which I highly recommend people switch to as soon as possible (the Dev is currently working on discord-like channels with rooms).

                          For a more complete guide to swapping proprietary apps for safe open-source ones, I suggest referring to this post: https://slrpnk.net/post/23012609

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                          spookybogmonster@lemmy.ml
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                          #71

                          That first video is utterly unwatchable holy shit.

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                          • thingsiplay@lemmy.mlT thingsiplay@lemmy.ml

                            This? https://matrixrooms.info/ I don’t use it myself, didn’t use Matrix for a long time now.

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                            arandomturkishguy@lemmy.world
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                            #72

                            Terrible app, I wish I hadn’t entered. There’s all kinds of filth. Really, the very second I entered, someone asked me something very bad, I don’t want to say

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                            • ProdigalFrogP ProdigalFrog

                              The fascist noose is tightening the world over thanks to proprietary big tech. We have to escape now while we can to open-source alternatives.

                              Currently the best private (encrypted) and federated Discord alternative is Movim, which I highly recommend people switch to as soon as possible (the Dev is currently working on discord-like channels with rooms).

                              For a more complete guide to swapping proprietary apps for safe open-source ones, I suggest referring to this post: https://slrpnk.net/post/23012609

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                              relativityranger@lemmy.ca
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                              #73

                              iirc OMEMO doesn’t scale well compared to Megolm for large communities

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                                amuletta@lemmy.ca
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                                #74

                                No loss. I got talked into joining a Discord group and hated everything about it.

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                                • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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                                  #75

                                  And listen, I know people harp on this a lot, but it’s a company literally named after an orb that lets the most evil force in the world spy on your thoughts.

                                  Minor nitpick from a LotR nerd - that’s not how the Palantíri work. But I suppose that’s not really all that important considering the real topic at hand here.

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                                  • H hector@lemmy.today

                                    They should’ve just declared bankruptcy and reformed a new media organization, then pre emptively sued thiel with their own slaap suits.

                                    Why does no one hit these epstein level billionaires back with lawsuits? We should be burying them. We should’ve been fundraising to sponsor lawsuits for people they have cheated, the president for his contractors he hasn’t paid for instance, those that haven’t already settled after he sued them after cheating them. Thiel likewise. We could have bake sales, we could sponsor events, like runs, 20 dollars for a local race to go to suing these guys for real perversions of justice. There are a lot of possibilities.

                                    We need our own forums, social media is hooked by these people, so they would shut that stuff down if tried now. We need new federated social media, with clear and fair enforcement of rules, both in the instances and the main forum(s) such as appeals that culminate in jury trials of members of that instance/forum for violations.

                                    Because with a fair enforcement system we would get the exodus from social media and get critical mass, as social media is selling out to the administration more every day, confident that people have no where else to go. In fact homeland security has sent a raft of "administrative subpoenas to social media, fb, twitter, reddit, for details on people critical of ICE, CBP, etc., for personal details on the users, and reddit and the rest said they mostly complied. Not seemingly telling the users so it can be challenged.

                                    Social media gave up, they gave us up. We have no where else to go and will be locked down in a rigged system. Let’s make them wrong about that.

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                                    mossheart@lemmy.ca
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                                    Because I don’t think you fully grasp just how much money a single billion dollars is, much less dozens or hundreds of billions. They have legions of people on payroll whose sole job is to make problems go away

                                    They have limitless piles of money with which to tank anything plebs or businesses can throw at them in a courtroom.

                                    You could fundraise and every single person in America could donate $10 and you’d still only have $3.4B. Thiel’s estimated at 24ish billion. Also consider that at least 1/3 of Americans are actively sinking for this dystopian hellscape.

                                    There is nothing anyone is going to be able to do in a courtroom against billionaires.

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                                    • C creativecider@feddit.org

                                      Download Element.io, create an acount, create your space and rooms, invite your friends.

                                      Leave this fucking mess that’s called discord

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                                      who
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                                      #77

                                      And after trying it, if you want to see what alternative client apps have to offer, you can find them here.

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                                      • N nomy@lemmy.zip

                                        Imagine allowing your social life to be paywalled by a billionaire.

                                        No wonder they just keep trying to fuck us, a whole bunch of people are on their knees with their mouths open.

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                                        Pratai
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                                        #78

                                        Imagine your social life being entirely online.

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                                          CarrieForle
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                                          Created an account on Stoat and Matrix. So far I prefer Stoat as it’s easier and more intuitive to use.

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