Agreed… but, they can do it because people have been deeply irresponsible with how they themselves have related to the industry, driving the view that it’s necessary in decision making circles.

I don’t think it’s just a matter of personal responsibility; it’s part of the socio-economic system, whoever controls the capital can force others depending on it to do things they don’t want to. In this case PP/MC/Visa forcing itch.io.

Right, that’s why they CAN do it, but I’m talking about why they WANT to do it. Basically people have become so insanely over saturated with porn in their own lives, we’ve literally just had to endure an entire decade of perverts making their own politics about almost nothing other than their sexual perversions.

So really, either man the fuck up and actually prove to people that those who choose to live as you do aren’t less than worthless shit disturbers, or recognize that you have a problem and give it up. You can choose which one.

That’s up to government regulations and something that people can vote on - not something the payment processor can suddenly control and block

This is so dumb. . I bet those guys actually watch the most porn.

This has been a thing since at least 2010 when it happened to WikiLeaks.

see also: https://greenwald.substack.com/p/congress-escalates-pressure-on-tech

::: spoiler Transcript nickyflowers: It would be cool if websites let you be an adult on them. The advertisers and payment processors need everything to be Family Friendly though their definitions of family and friendly are absolutely fucked. But since they’re in charge of the Internet now, no one is allowed to be an adult. TikTokers say things like “unalive” and “seggs” because they know death and sex are too adult for online. Online is for idiot babies only now because they’re easier to market to.

nickyflowers: Oh I’m sorry you’re a trans adult? Super ban. You are super banned for life. You have upset Visa’s feelings. Mastercard is throwing up in the corner. How could you do this to Google Ads? :::

So really, either man the fuck up and actually prove to people that those who choose to live as you do aren’t less than worthless shit disturbers, or recognize that you have a problem and give it up. You can choose which one.

I don’t see why I’d have to prove anything to some random payment providers. Their job is to handle my payment for any legal purpose, not to morally judge me because some conservative organization from the other side of the world told them to.

Right, that’s why they CAN do it, but I’m talking about why they WANT to do it.

The reason why PP/MC/Visa “want” to do this has zero to do with “porn saturation” or whatever. It’s basically “brand management”; they’re seeing servicing sites with specific types of adult content as “brand damage”, so they pressure those sites to not do it. That’s it; if they believed the opposite they’d gladly force itch io to show a dick in the front page.

In turn, the reason Collective Shout is pressuring PP/MC/Visa through “brand damage” mostly boils down to conservative babble. Check this, regarding the group’s founder and take your own conclusions.

I’m talking about why they WANT to do it.

Hm… Looks to me like you’re making excuses for a group of crazy anti-LGBTQ evangelicals who are using lies and slander to police the world based on your own flawed morality.

100%

Almost invariably people like this have a crippling porn addiction and refuse to believe that they’re the ones with the problem. They delude themselves into believing that if the porn just didn’t exist that there wouldn’t be a problem anymore.

Its the only thing I go to itch.io for.

Ridiculous on their part.

With crypto going more and more mainstream, it won’t be long before another payment system shows up and starts competing against Visa/MC and Paypal.

They are opening up a lane for a competitor to fill a fairly large gap.

First line of the bitcoin whitepaper deals with this lol.

Whether it is this or tracking/disallowing firearms purchases, the payment processors should not be making editorial decisions on legal commerce.

If the item or service is legal in the jurisdiction, the payment processors should be on the hook for agnostically allowing the transactions. Period.

How do I start a payment processor?

Research Swift or CIPS

Can I use it to pay for blackjack and hookers?

Yes. If it’s legal in your jurisdiction.

Not “pressure group”. Radical religious groups trying to control everything everywhere.