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[...] Steve Wozniak [75th birthday]: "I gave all my Apple wealth away because wealth and power are not what I live for"

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  • lime!L lime!

    hell no i wanna live

    fruit juice is all mostly apple anyway

    bonus fun fact, lime doesn’t help against scurvy. the brits started cultivating limes because it’s easier than lemons, but because the steam ship took over at around the same time, travel times got shorter and nobody noticed that they don’t actually have the same effect. until the 1910 british antarctic expedition when people’s teeth started falling out despite carrying tonnes of limes

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    al_kaholic@lemmynsfw.com
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    Ah yes once again as usual the British are wrong.

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    • F fauxliving@lemmy.world

      This is why all of the megarich are selfish assholes.

      The good people give their money away.

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      porksnort@slrpnk.net
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      Or they have an epiphany and realize they have, perhaps not ‘fuck you’ money, but at least ‘bite me’ money. Then they sit in a row boat and fish or something. Greed is a pathology and we do a favor to those inflicted with it by taking it away faster and faster the more they steal from us.

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      • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT trickdacy@lemmy.world

        No idea who that is

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        cenotaph@mander.xyz
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        He’s the reason every big company does mass layoffs to boost stock prices every other quarter

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        • F fauxliving@lemmy.world

          This is why all of the megarich are selfish assholes.

          The good people give their money away.

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          tankovayadiviziya@lemmy.world
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          #42

          And the good people never brag how charitable they are for doing so.

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            kautau@lemmy.world
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            #43

            When I was in college studying Comp Sci I did a whois on Woz’s domain and sent an email to the registered email (this was generally before the days of free whois protection), not expecting a response, just mentioning how cool his work on the Apple I & II was among others, and how as a CS student was exciting to see where technology had gotten to, asking him what he was up to.

            I got a response a day later, thanking me for my email, talking about how he loved hearing from students, telling me about his current dancing with the stars stuff (this was in late 2009), among some other quips and such.

            Felt incredibly down to earth and casual, and while I know it only took him maybe 5 minutes to write that email, or maybe it was even copied and pasted, it was super cool to get a response from such a tech icon.

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            • W woodscientist@lemmy.world

              Can we make “secular saints” a thing? Why should we reserve the title of “Saint” specifically for the Catholic Church? I think we should just get in the habit of referring to any unambiguously good person, who has performed great acts of generosity and selflessness, as a saint. They don’t even have to be religious. If someone wants to interpret it religiously, they can say that anyone so good is almost certainly bound for Heaven, but it need not be religious. Why can’t we have secular saints? Why can’t we have Saint Stephen of San Jose or Saint Fred of Latrobe?

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              Kühlschrank
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              I like this.

              Tangentially related - I was thinking the other day about how it seems like the rich used to feel obligated (for whatever reason) to use some of their wealth for the good of the world. But can you even imagine a ‘Musk Foundation’ or a fucking ‘Zuckerberg Foundation’? No because they don’t have even an ounce of shame or a shred of conscience. I don’t know what it would even take but I do think it’s far past time for us to start talking, bare minimum, about their obligations to the country and world that gave them so much.

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              • lime!L lime!

                why call them saints? just call them good people

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                tankovayadiviziya@lemmy.world
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                It’s important to recognise exceptionally good imo.

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                • C cenotaph@mander.xyz

                  He’s the reason every big company does mass layoffs to boost stock prices every other quarter

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                  palmtreeisbesttree@lemmy.world
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                  All my homies hate Jack Welch. Glad he’s dead.

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                  • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT trickdacy@lemmy.world

                    No idea who that is

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                    quovadishomines@sh.itjust.works
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                    He was the chair of General Electric for decades. He was one of the most prominent businessmen of the 20th century. People in corporate management still use his techniques and ideas.

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                    • K kautau@lemmy.world

                      When I was in college studying Comp Sci I did a whois on Woz’s domain and sent an email to the registered email (this was generally before the days of free whois protection), not expecting a response, just mentioning how cool his work on the Apple I & II was among others, and how as a CS student was exciting to see where technology had gotten to, asking him what he was up to.

                      I got a response a day later, thanking me for my email, talking about how he loved hearing from students, telling me about his current dancing with the stars stuff (this was in late 2009), among some other quips and such.

                      Felt incredibly down to earth and casual, and while I know it only took him maybe 5 minutes to write that email, or maybe it was even copied and pasted, it was super cool to get a response from such a tech icon.

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                      /home/pineapplelover
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                      Gaben also does this

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                      • W woodscientist@lemmy.world

                        Can we make “secular saints” a thing? Why should we reserve the title of “Saint” specifically for the Catholic Church? I think we should just get in the habit of referring to any unambiguously good person, who has performed great acts of generosity and selflessness, as a saint. They don’t even have to be religious. If someone wants to interpret it religiously, they can say that anyone so good is almost certainly bound for Heaven, but it need not be religious. Why can’t we have secular saints? Why can’t we have Saint Stephen of San Jose or Saint Fred of Latrobe?

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                        ulvain@sh.itjust.works
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                        I’d love for some kind of “social model of a great human” canonization process… A bit like the Nobel prize, something determined by a committee or something, but it would have to be people that were actual genuine fucking awesome humans.

                        I’m thinking Steve Irwin, Fred Rogers, etc…

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                        • _ _stranger_@lemmy.world

                          Jobs wasn’t ignorant of his situation. He had the best doctors in the world telling him exactly what he needed to do . He decided to ignore them because he thought he was right and they were wrong.

                          Steve Jobs killed himself. The gun was his hubris and the trigger was the universe telling him no.

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                          xthexder@l.sw0.com
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                          And history repeats itself with OceanGate

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                          • B bulwark@lemmy.world

                            I had an Apple IIgs back in the day “signed” (printed) by Woz. I’m glad that dude is still living his best life.

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                            xthexder@l.sw0.com
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                            This one wasn’t signed, but I have fond memories playing “Thexder” on an Apple IIgs in my grandparent’s basement growing up. You can guess where my username came from.

                            That game sure was hard to play with all 4 arrow keys in a line on that keyboard…

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                            • G glimse@lemmy.world

                              no one will know his name in 20 years.

                              I’m not a fan of Jobs but that’s quite a claim. No one will remember one of the most successful CEOs of all time in 2 decades?

                              Wozniak will leave the public consciousness way sooner than Jobs. Outside of tech circles, pretty much nobody knows who he is now.

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                              ushmel
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                              20 years might be pushing it, but he’d be gone 34ish years by that point. He wasn’t much of a philanthropist. Is there any Steve Jobs Parks? Plazas? His early death didn’t lend him much time to create a legacy. He’ll be known in business and tech scenes, sure, but the pop culture knowledge of him will be negligible. Does the general public know about the CEO of IBM 35+ years ago? The current crop of CEOs are like WWE wrestlers in their persona compared to Jobs. Being present for the smartphone revolution was something, but does anyone remember the CEO of the company that introduced the laptop? Jobs wasn’t a Carnegie or Rockefeller.

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                              • W woodscientist@lemmy.world

                                Can we make “secular saints” a thing? Why should we reserve the title of “Saint” specifically for the Catholic Church? I think we should just get in the habit of referring to any unambiguously good person, who has performed great acts of generosity and selflessness, as a saint. They don’t even have to be religious. If someone wants to interpret it religiously, they can say that anyone so good is almost certainly bound for Heaven, but it need not be religious. Why can’t we have secular saints? Why can’t we have Saint Stephen of San Jose or Saint Fred of Latrobe?

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                                smokedbillionaire@sh.itjust.works
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                                Does the word “paragon” apply in this case? That’s what I think of when I see someone outside of religious context that I would aspire to emulate.

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                                  but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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                                  It’s wild the simping done for Gabe on Lemmy. Gamers acting like he’s THEIR billionaire and steam is THEIR corporation and pretending he ain’t evil

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                                  • v_krishnaV v_krishna

                                    I think that’s his point. Past a certain level wealth makes no difference to your quality of life. So give it away, make the world better, and still have enough for more than 1 lifetime rather than horde and continue to amass like a cancer.

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                                    cosmicrookie@lemmy.world
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                                    Yeah. For me though, sayingig that you dont live for wealth and power, when you have enough to live 2 lifetimes comfortably, is kind of ironic.

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                                    • B but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world

                                      It’s wild the simping done for Gabe on Lemmy. Gamers acting like he’s THEIR billionaire and steam is THEIR corporation and pretending he ain’t evil

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                                      megaultrachicken@lemmy.world
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                                      He’s significantly less evil than other billionaires and Valve provides a pretty solid service at a fair price. Not very many companies even reach that bar. Giving them credit for that isn’t unreasonable.

                                      All billionaires are bad but I’ll take Gabe over a Bezos or Zuckerberg every day of the week. There’s a huge difference on how those guys see/treat the world.

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                                        floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                        Oh what a world it would be if people like Wozniak and Swartz weren’t fucked over by their original techbro “friends”

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                                          MrSilkworm
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                                          Here’s a guy that actually tried to make something good, even if the other guy didn’t let him. He worked to live and not lived to work. Yet he still has 10 million and a couple of houses, which definetely doesn’t make him a billionaire, but he has enough to put him in the “fuck you” position

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