Calls for Canada to bar bands Kneecap, Bob Vylan over anti-Israel messages test limits of free expression
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On the other hand, it’s perfectly valid to not want to knife either combatant in a knife fight, but just get them to stop endangering themselves and everyone around them. You know, without chanting “death to knife fighter A!”
Are people still trying to both sides a literal genocide?
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Chanting for the death of the Israel Defence Forces (IDF). Waving a Hezbollah flag at a concert. Cheering for Hamas. Calling on fans in the U.K. to “kill your local MP.”
Then, video re-emerged from a 2023 concert, in London, England, when one member said, “The only good Tory is a dead Tory. Kill your local MP.” The band apologized amid concert cancellations in Europe.
Another video appeared to show one of the band members shouting “up Hezbollah, up Hamas” at a 2024 concert in London while wearing a Hezbollah flag over his head. Both Hezbollah and Hamas are designated terror groups in Britain, as well in Canada.
Do you want to see how easy it is to be against Israels actions, support Palestinian freedom, and not support Terrorists while inciting violence?
The Likud party of Israel are war criminals. The soldiers in the IDF following Likuds orders are war criminals. Every Israelite attacking Palestinians is a war criminal. Every Israelite in support of this is supporting a genocide.
Every single one of them should be brought to swift justice. But it isn’t everyone in Israel or the IDF, just like every Palestinian isn’t Hamas.
Do you want to see how easy it is to be against Israels actions, support Palestinian freedom, and not support Terrorists while inciting violence?
I mean, why would you not incite violence against violent genociders and occupiers? Also you meant Israelis. Israelites are the Biblical group.
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The IDF is a legitimate military target. It’s purpose is itself violence, so it’s incredibly dumb people have a problem with (questionably literal) violence being suggested towards it.
If it was death to Isreal, they might have a point, although there as well it might mean the state and not the people in it; for example as part of a one-state solution. If it was death to Jews the reaction would be totally warranted and I’d hope Bob Vylan would be charged.
… For those fighting over there. Are you active military Mr armchair warrior? I’d like to see them all prosecuted and thrown into prison for the rest of their lives. Better, they should atone by rebuilding Gaza.
Calling for anybody’s death and calling that Okay is how we got here in the first place.
Signed dumb people.
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On the other hand, it’s perfectly valid to not want to knife either combatant in a knife fight, but just get them to stop endangering themselves and everyone around them. You know, without chanting “death to knife fighter A!”
So when knife fighter A stabs starving children to death, after directly causing their starvation, you’re still gonna piss and moan about people chanting “death to knife fighter a”? Who am I kidding, of course you’ll take the “be a little bitch” route.
Fuck that.
Death to the IDF!
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On the other hand, it’s perfectly valid to not want to knife either combatant in a knife fight, but just get them to stop endangering themselves and everyone around them. You know, without chanting “death to knife fighter A!”
That’s some hard dodging to miss the point that completely.
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That’s some hard dodging to miss the point that completely.
Point wasn’t missed.
But I have a hard time with “death to <anyone>”, even when the original intent is metaphorical. Absolutely no equating calls for ending violent groups with actual violence committed by those groups.
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So when knife fighter A stabs starving children to death, after directly causing their starvation, you’re still gonna piss and moan about people chanting “death to knife fighter a”? Who am I kidding, of course you’ll take the “be a little bitch” route.
Fuck that.
Death to the IDF!
Together, we can just get them to stop. Starve them of money and weapons. Shame them publicly. Force them away from their victims. It can all be done without death.
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Are people still trying to both sides a literal genocide?
Nope; I’m saying calling for the death of those causing the genocide isn’t going to bring peace.
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Together, we can just get them to stop. Starve them of money and weapons. Shame them publicly. Force them away from their victims. It can all be done without death.
Yeah, 'cause that’s worked so well for humans historically.
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Nope; I’m saying calling for the death of those causing the genocide isn’t going to bring peace.
The Holocaust was ended by killing Nazis
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Yeah, 'cause that’s worked so well for humans historically.
and especially in the middle east!
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Nope; I’m saying calling for the death of those causing the genocide isn’t going to bring peace.
Yes it does, and pretty abruptly.
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Nope; I’m saying calling for the death of those causing the genocide isn’t going to bring peace.
“Death death to the SS” would be too radical for the average lib it seems.
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Together, we can just get them to stop. Starve them of money and weapons. Shame them publicly. Force them away from their victims. It can all be done without death.
How do you suppose Israel will be non-violently forced away from Palestine, the place they’ve been ethnically cleansing with the explicit help of other nations for over 70 years? Together, we’ll… ?
Canada won’t even put out a statement saying there is a genocide and that it’s wrong. We are sending weapons and other aid directly to Israel to help them finish the job.
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The only ones willing to stand up. Real artists doing what artists should do. I’ve been listening to both these bands. I’d love to see a show in Canada.
Death to the IDF.
Edit: also to.let you know. Same day news…
Kneecap cleared as police drop Glastonbury investigation over lack of evidence
Police have dropped a criminal investigation into Kneecap's Glastonbury performance, citing insufficient evidence.
Irish Mirror (www.irishmirror.ie)
Calls for Canada to bar bands Kneecap, Bob Vylan over anti-Israel messages test limits of free expression | CBC News
A prominent Jewish and Israeli advocacy organization and some Canadian politicians are calling for the Irish rap group Kneecap and the British punk rap duo Bob Vylan to be barred from performing in Canada over comments about the war in Gaza.
CBC (www.cbc.ca)
Netanyahu should be the one barred not these upstanding people.
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Together, we can just get them to stop. Starve them of money and weapons. Shame them publicly. Force them away from their victims. It can all be done without death.
THEY ARE KILLING PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO FEED THEMSELVES SOME OF WHOME ARE LITTLE CHILDREN.
YOU ARE SUPPORTING KILLERS OF CHILDREN AND DOERS OF GENOCIDE.
YOU ARE NOT A GOOD HUMAN BEING.
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Point wasn’t missed.
But I have a hard time with “death to <anyone>”, even when the original intent is metaphorical. Absolutely no equating calls for ending violent groups with actual violence committed by those groups.
Not much of a student of history, are we?
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The only ones willing to stand up. Real artists doing what artists should do. I’ve been listening to both these bands. I’d love to see a show in Canada.
Death to the IDF.
Edit: also to.let you know. Same day news…
Kneecap cleared as police drop Glastonbury investigation over lack of evidence
Police have dropped a criminal investigation into Kneecap's Glastonbury performance, citing insufficient evidence.
Irish Mirror (www.irishmirror.ie)
Calls for Canada to bar bands Kneecap, Bob Vylan over anti-Israel messages test limits of free expression | CBC News
A prominent Jewish and Israeli advocacy organization and some Canadian politicians are calling for the Irish rap group Kneecap and the British punk rap duo Bob Vylan to be barred from performing in Canada over comments about the war in Gaza.
CBC (www.cbc.ca)
Watch them be banned because it’s important we don’t upset the Israeli government feelings.
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… For those fighting over there. Are you active military Mr armchair warrior? I’d like to see them all prosecuted and thrown into prison for the rest of their lives. Better, they should atone by rebuilding Gaza.
Calling for anybody’s death and calling that Okay is how we got here in the first place.
Signed dumb people.
Signed dumb people.
Well at least you’re honest
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Do you want to see how easy it is to be against Israels actions, support Palestinian freedom, and not support Terrorists while inciting violence?
I mean, why would you not incite violence against violent genociders and occupiers? Also you meant Israelis. Israelites are the Biblical group.
I mean, why would you not incite violence against violent genociders and occupiers?
Because it isn’t everyone in Israel or the IDF, just like every Palestinian isn’t Hamas, as I stated above. Inciting violence leads to more innocent death, because everyone becomes a target.
There is a reason why anti Muslim and anti Jewish rhetoric is on the rise, and inciting violence against either group is the reason for that.
Also you meant Israelis. Israelites are the Biblical group.
No, I used Israelite specifically in this case to reference the fucked up rhetoric and mentality of Israeli’s who believe they are Gods chosen people, have a right to every inch of land in the area, and getting that land by any means necessary is Gods will.
