Calls for Canada to bar bands Kneecap, Bob Vylan over anti-Israel messages test limits of free expression
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Together, we can just get them to stop. Starve them of money and weapons. Shame them publicly. Force them away from their victims. It can all be done without death.
Yeah, 'cause that’s worked so well for humans historically.
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Nope; I’m saying calling for the death of those causing the genocide isn’t going to bring peace.
The Holocaust was ended by killing Nazis
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Yeah, 'cause that’s worked so well for humans historically.
and especially in the middle east!
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Nope; I’m saying calling for the death of those causing the genocide isn’t going to bring peace.
Yes it does, and pretty abruptly.
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Nope; I’m saying calling for the death of those causing the genocide isn’t going to bring peace.
“Death death to the SS” would be too radical for the average lib it seems.
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Together, we can just get them to stop. Starve them of money and weapons. Shame them publicly. Force them away from their victims. It can all be done without death.
How do you suppose Israel will be non-violently forced away from Palestine, the place they’ve been ethnically cleansing with the explicit help of other nations for over 70 years? Together, we’ll… ?
Canada won’t even put out a statement saying there is a genocide and that it’s wrong. We are sending weapons and other aid directly to Israel to help them finish the job.
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The only ones willing to stand up. Real artists doing what artists should do. I’ve been listening to both these bands. I’d love to see a show in Canada.
Death to the IDF.
Edit: also to.let you know. Same day news…
Kneecap cleared as police drop Glastonbury investigation over lack of evidence
Police have dropped a criminal investigation into Kneecap's Glastonbury performance, citing insufficient evidence.
Irish Mirror (www.irishmirror.ie)
Calls for Canada to bar bands Kneecap, Bob Vylan over anti-Israel messages test limits of free expression | CBC News
A prominent Jewish and Israeli advocacy organization and some Canadian politicians are calling for the Irish rap group Kneecap and the British punk rap duo Bob Vylan to be barred from performing in Canada over comments about the war in Gaza.
CBC (www.cbc.ca)
Netanyahu should be the one barred not these upstanding people.
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Together, we can just get them to stop. Starve them of money and weapons. Shame them publicly. Force them away from their victims. It can all be done without death.
THEY ARE KILLING PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO FEED THEMSELVES SOME OF WHOME ARE LITTLE CHILDREN.
YOU ARE SUPPORTING KILLERS OF CHILDREN AND DOERS OF GENOCIDE.
YOU ARE NOT A GOOD HUMAN BEING.
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Point wasn’t missed.
But I have a hard time with “death to <anyone>”, even when the original intent is metaphorical. Absolutely no equating calls for ending violent groups with actual violence committed by those groups.
Not much of a student of history, are we?
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The only ones willing to stand up. Real artists doing what artists should do. I’ve been listening to both these bands. I’d love to see a show in Canada.
Death to the IDF.
Edit: also to.let you know. Same day news…
Kneecap cleared as police drop Glastonbury investigation over lack of evidence
Police have dropped a criminal investigation into Kneecap's Glastonbury performance, citing insufficient evidence.
Irish Mirror (www.irishmirror.ie)
Calls for Canada to bar bands Kneecap, Bob Vylan over anti-Israel messages test limits of free expression | CBC News
A prominent Jewish and Israeli advocacy organization and some Canadian politicians are calling for the Irish rap group Kneecap and the British punk rap duo Bob Vylan to be barred from performing in Canada over comments about the war in Gaza.
CBC (www.cbc.ca)
Watch them be banned because it’s important we don’t upset the Israeli government feelings.
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… For those fighting over there. Are you active military Mr armchair warrior? I’d like to see them all prosecuted and thrown into prison for the rest of their lives. Better, they should atone by rebuilding Gaza.
Calling for anybody’s death and calling that Okay is how we got here in the first place.
Signed dumb people.
Signed dumb people.
Well at least you’re honest
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Do you want to see how easy it is to be against Israels actions, support Palestinian freedom, and not support Terrorists while inciting violence?
I mean, why would you not incite violence against violent genociders and occupiers? Also you meant Israelis. Israelites are the Biblical group.
I mean, why would you not incite violence against violent genociders and occupiers?
Because it isn’t everyone in Israel or the IDF, just like every Palestinian isn’t Hamas, as I stated above. Inciting violence leads to more innocent death, because everyone becomes a target.
There is a reason why anti Muslim and anti Jewish rhetoric is on the rise, and inciting violence against either group is the reason for that.
Also you meant Israelis. Israelites are the Biblical group.
No, I used Israelite specifically in this case to reference the fucked up rhetoric and mentality of Israeli’s who believe they are Gods chosen people, have a right to every inch of land in the area, and getting that land by any means necessary is Gods will.
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How do you suppose Israel will be non-violently forced away from Palestine, the place they’ve been ethnically cleansing with the explicit help of other nations for over 70 years? Together, we’ll… ?
Canada won’t even put out a statement saying there is a genocide and that it’s wrong. We are sending weapons and other aid directly to Israel to help them finish the job.
Yeah; and that is wrong. Should we be saying “die Canada” because of it? Or should we do what we can to get the government to stop?
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Yeah, 'cause that’s worked so well for humans historically.
How has constant and devastating war worked out as an alternative?
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I mean, why would you not incite violence against violent genociders and occupiers?
Because it isn’t everyone in Israel or the IDF, just like every Palestinian isn’t Hamas, as I stated above. Inciting violence leads to more innocent death, because everyone becomes a target.
There is a reason why anti Muslim and anti Jewish rhetoric is on the rise, and inciting violence against either group is the reason for that.
Also you meant Israelis. Israelites are the Biblical group.
No, I used Israelite specifically in this case to reference the fucked up rhetoric and mentality of Israeli’s who believe they are Gods chosen people, have a right to every inch of land in the area, and getting that land by any means necessary is Gods will.
Because it isn’t everyone in Israel or the IDF, just like every Palestinian isn’t Hamas,
What? What is the IDF doing other than oppressing Palestinians? That’s literally their whole thing. Israel has sent hundreds of thousands of soldiers in Gaza whose whole purpose is to kill and displace Palestinians, not to mention their operations and enforcement of Apartheid in the West Bank. There is no way to be an innocent IDF soldier., because everything they do is evil.
Inciting violence leads to more innocent death, because everyone becomes a target.
Well there’s nothing can Palestinians can do to stop Israel except violence.
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Because it isn’t everyone in Israel or the IDF, just like every Palestinian isn’t Hamas,
What? What is the IDF doing other than oppressing Palestinians? That’s literally their whole thing. Israel has sent hundreds of thousands of soldiers in Gaza whose whole purpose is to kill and displace Palestinians, not to mention their operations and enforcement of Apartheid in the West Bank. There is no way to be an innocent IDF soldier., because everything they do is evil.
Inciting violence leads to more innocent death, because everyone becomes a target.
Well there’s nothing can Palestinians can do to stop Israel except violence.
What? What is the IDF doing other than oppressing Palestinians? That’s literally their whole thing. Israel has sent hundreds of thousands of soldiers in Gaza whose whole purpose is to kill and displace Palestinians, not to mention their operations and enforcement of Apartheid in the West Bank. There is no way to be an innocent IDF soldier., because everything they do is evil.
I would highly recommend you look up what “Conscription” is, and the consequences of avoiding service.
Well there’s nothing can Palestinians can do to stop Israel except violence.
One can clearly see that violence is not benefiting Palestinians, Israelis, Iranians, Lebanese, Syrians, or any other people involved in this.
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The only ones willing to stand up. Real artists doing what artists should do. I’ve been listening to both these bands. I’d love to see a show in Canada.
Death to the IDF.
Edit: also to.let you know. Same day news…
Kneecap cleared as police drop Glastonbury investigation over lack of evidence
Police have dropped a criminal investigation into Kneecap's Glastonbury performance, citing insufficient evidence.
Irish Mirror (www.irishmirror.ie)
Calls for Canada to bar bands Kneecap, Bob Vylan over anti-Israel messages test limits of free expression | CBC News
A prominent Jewish and Israeli advocacy organization and some Canadian politicians are calling for the Irish rap group Kneecap and the British punk rap duo Bob Vylan to be barred from performing in Canada over comments about the war in Gaza.
CBC (www.cbc.ca)
Anti war speech has to be free speech. Declaring Israel the most moral army in the world, with ambitions for most humanitarian concentration camp in the world as absolute immutable truth is not just fascism in of itself, it is genocidal hasbara given evidence of opposite.
Fascist media and political party unity on war, and which side of wars to support also affects online community moderation, some of which is paid by master empire to impose the fascist unity message.
Ukrainian or Zionist diaspora imposing fascist limitations on speech, because they are politically valuable single issue diasporas, simply invalidates democracy and freedom. Instead of submitting to what is primarily US empire driven censorship and oppression, it would be reasonable to criminalize/censor support for an empire’s war/unjustifiable extortion against us, much less rethinking our programming for their propaganda.
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… For those fighting over there. Are you active military Mr armchair warrior? I’d like to see them all prosecuted and thrown into prison for the rest of their lives. Better, they should atone by rebuilding Gaza.
Calling for anybody’s death and calling that Okay is how we got here in the first place.
Signed dumb people.
But what if sending them to the Hague wasn’t an option (and it’s usually not)? Wouldn’t it be better for them to die? Suggesting that isn’t the problem with the world. It definitely isn’t so exceptional that it should be cut out of the usual protections on freedom of expression.
I didn’t say I personally am going to kill IDF soldiers, did I? If I had, that would either be true or I’d be an internet tough guy, but I didn’t.
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On the other hand, it’s perfectly valid to not want to knife either combatant in a knife fight, but just get them to stop endangering themselves and everyone around them. You know, without chanting “death to knife fighter A!”
Fuck all the way off.
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On the other hand, it’s perfectly valid to not want to knife either combatant in a knife fight, but just get them to stop endangering themselves and everyone around them. You know, without chanting “death to knife fighter A!”
I’m sure you’d have the same feelings if someone just took over your house and regularlly killed your family members. Right?
