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Gamers Are Reportedly Skipping GPU Upgrades Due to Soaring Prices — Paying Bills Takes Priority Over Chasing NVIDIA’s RTX 5090

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  • F finitebanjo@lemmy.world

    I’m ngl, finances had no impact on my decisions to stay at 3080. Performance and support did. Everything I want to play runs at least 60 to 180 fps with my current loadout. I’m also afraid once Windows 10 LTSC dies I won’t be able to use a high end GPU with Linux anyways.

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    mistercd@lemmy.world
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    #174

    You can always side-grade to AMD. I was using a 3070 and ditched Windows for Kubuntu and while it was very usable, I would get the slightest input lag and had to make sure the compositor (desktop effects) was turned off when playing a game.

    After some research I decided to side-grade to the 6800 and it’s a night and day difference. Buttery smooth gaming. It performs better with compositor on than Nvidia did with it off. I know 6800 isn’t high end but it’s no slouch either. AMD is king on Linux.

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    • C cm0002@lemmy.world

      Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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      deflated0ne@lemmy.world
      wrote on last edited by
      #175

      Ah capitalism…

      Endless infinite growth forever on a fragile and very much finite planet where wages are suppressed and most money is intentionally funneled into the coffers of a small handful of people who are already so wealthy that their descendants 5 generations down the line will still be some of the richest people on the planet.

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      • C cm0002@lemmy.world

        Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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        evotech@lemmy.world
        wrote on last edited by
        #176

        When a new gpu was 500-900 usd it was fine.

        But yeah, 2070rtx keeps chugging on

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        • C cm0002@lemmy.world

          Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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          nikki
          wrote on last edited by
          #177

          the most i use my gpu for at this point is minecraft shaders, i dont plan on upgrading in 10+ years

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          • DefederateLemmyMlS DefederateLemmyMl

            bit better RT performance about which I couldn’t care less about.

            Yeah raytracing is not really relevant on these cards, the performance hit is just too great.

            The RX 9070 XT is the first AMD GPU where you can consider turning it on.

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            werecat@lemmy.world
            wrote on last edited by werecat@lemmy.world
            #178

            But I wouldnt turn it on and actually play with it even if I could because I will always take the better performance.

            I’ve actually tried Path Tracing in CP2077 running at native Steam Deck resolution streamed to my Steam Deck OLED from my PC at max settings and it could do 30FPS locked fairly well (overlocked by 20% though). But the game looks absolutelly horrible in motion with it’s terrible LOD so no amount of RT or PT can save it. It looks dope for screenshots though. But that’s PT, RT is basically almost indistinguishable. And PT is many, many years away for it to be viable for majority of people to use.

            (The game reports W10 but it was Fedora42 actually)

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            • C cm0002@lemmy.world

              Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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              Mwa
              wrote on last edited by mwa@thelemmy.club
              #179

              I am just using my GTX 1650 4GB VRAM (GDDR6) and it works fine for most of the things i do I can use Linux + FSR Hack to squeeze framerates out of games that perform poorly
              and it runs my SCP:SL and tf2 fine
              SCP:SL am using FSR HACK To squeeze more framerate until Nvidia fixes VKD3D
              Maybe my next card is RX 6650 XT/AMD but still i might stick with my GTX 1650

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              • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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                #180

                Nvidia doesn’t really care about the high-end gamer demographic nearly as much as they used to, because it’s no longer their bread and butter. Nvidia’s cash cow at this point is supplying hardware for ML data centers. It’s an order of magnitude more lucrative than serving consumer + enthusiast market.

                So my next card is probably gonna be an RX 9070XT.

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                • C coacoamelky@lemm.ee

                  The good games don’t need a high end GPU.

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                  epitaque@lemmy.world
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                  #181

                  Clair obscur runs like shit on my 3090 at 4k 😞

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                  • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                    Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                    baatliwala@lemmy.world
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                    #182

                    Been hearing this for the past 3 years

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                    • V vividspecter@lemm.ee

                      It doesn’t help that the gains have been smaller, and the prices higher.

                      I’ve got a RX 6800 I bought in 2020, and nothing but the 5090 is a significant upgrade, and I’m sure as fuck not paying that kind of money for a video card.

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                      harxanimous@lemmy.today
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #183

                      Well that depends on your definition of significant. Don’t get me wrong, the state of the GPU market is not consumer friendly, but even an RX 9070 provides over a 50% performance uplift over the RX 6800.

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                      • A allemaniac@lemmy.world

                        I’m sitting on a 3060 TI and waiting for the 40-series prices to drop further. Ain’t no universe where I would pay full price for the newest gens. I don’t need to render anything for work with my PC, so a 2-3 year old GPU will do just fine

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                        warehouse@lemmy.ca
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                        #184

                        I’m pretty sure that production of the 40 series has stopped. The 50 series uses the same node.

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                        • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                          Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                          endlessnightmare@reddthat.com
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                          #185

                          I don’t buy every generation and skip 1 if not 2. I have a 40xx series and will probably wait until the 70xx (I’m assumimg series naming here) before upgrading.

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                          • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                            Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                            throwaway4669332255@lemmy.world
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                            #186

                            IT litterally costs $3000

                            Thats almost 4 time the cost of my 3090.

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                            • F finitebanjo@lemmy.world

                              Technically Intel is also releasing some cheapo GPUs in similar capability to nVidia but they all have the same manufacturers anyways.

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                              critical_thinker@lemm.ee
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                              #187

                              There’s major issues with those GPUs in some commonplace use cases and they have major scalping issues. Sure in some use cases there’s zero issues, but this aint like the early 2000s when there were many brands that all basically worked.

                              Now you’re either nvidia with every feature, amd with most features (kinda like a store brand), or intel with major compatibility flaws with specific games because it’s technically a GPU.

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                              • W werecat@lemmy.world

                                But I wouldnt turn it on and actually play with it even if I could because I will always take the better performance.

                                I’ve actually tried Path Tracing in CP2077 running at native Steam Deck resolution streamed to my Steam Deck OLED from my PC at max settings and it could do 30FPS locked fairly well (overlocked by 20% though). But the game looks absolutelly horrible in motion with it’s terrible LOD so no amount of RT or PT can save it. It looks dope for screenshots though. But that’s PT, RT is basically almost indistinguishable. And PT is many, many years away for it to be viable for majority of people to use.

                                (The game reports W10 but it was Fedora42 actually)

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                                DefederateLemmyMl
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                                #188

                                But I wouldnt turn it on and actually play with it even if I could because I will always take the better performance.

                                Depends. In Cyberpunk I can get 90-100fps on 1440p on ultra with raytracing on and FSR4 Quality (via Optiscaler). That is a very good experience IMO, to the point that I forget about “framerate” while playing.

                                That’s Windows though, in Linux the raytracing performance is rather worse for some reason and it slips below the threshold of what I find noticeable, so I go for 1440p native.

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                                • G gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works

                                  Nvidia doesn’t really care about the high-end gamer demographic nearly as much as they used to, because it’s no longer their bread and butter. Nvidia’s cash cow at this point is supplying hardware for ML data centers. It’s an order of magnitude more lucrative than serving consumer + enthusiast market.

                                  So my next card is probably gonna be an RX 9070XT.

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                                  ameancow@lemmy.world
                                  wrote on last edited by ameancow@lemmy.world
                                  #189

                                  even the RX9070 is running around $900 USD, I cannot fathom affording even state-of-the-art gaming from years ago at this point. I am still using a GTX1660 and playing games from years ago I never got around to and having a grand time. Most adults I know are in the same boat and either not even considering upgrading their PC or they’re playing their kid’s console games.

                                  Every year we say “Gonna look into upgrading” but every year prices go up and wages stay the same (or disappear entirely as private-equity ravages the business world, digesting every company that isn’t also a private equity predator) and the prices of just living and eating are insane, so at this rate, a lot of us might start reading again.

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                                  • C critical_thinker@lemm.ee

                                    There’s major issues with those GPUs in some commonplace use cases and they have major scalping issues. Sure in some use cases there’s zero issues, but this aint like the early 2000s when there were many brands that all basically worked.

                                    Now you’re either nvidia with every feature, amd with most features (kinda like a store brand), or intel with major compatibility flaws with specific games because it’s technically a GPU.

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                                    finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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                                    #190

                                    I think patent laws and proprietary software supported by major OS have always had some impact, even the 90s, but yeah it’s definitely a poor state for the market to be this concentrated.

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                                    • T throwaway4669332255@lemmy.world

                                      IT litterally costs $3000

                                      Thats almost 4 time the cost of my 3090.

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                                      pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                      #191

                                      Thats almost a year of work on my country lol…

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                                      • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                                        Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                                        pr0sp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                        #192

                                        Bah, AAA games aren’t interesting for me anymore. I like more indies nowadays, specially I am a fan of Doom-like games, I liked Selaco, Turbo-Overkill, I liked ghostrunner as well…

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                                        • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                                          Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                                          bosht@lemmy.world
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                                          #193

                                          First: Nobody gives a shit about the ray tracing craze, like not really. It applies to a thin margin of games, and is an option easily turned off or avoided. Seeing as AAA games are most of the ones developing for it anyway, and seeing as most of those are utter shit, yeah I’m not buying into the craze and spending obnoxious amounts of money on it.

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