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    cm0002@lemmy.world
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    Universities, freedom of speech, and freedom and responsibility in science

    https://council.science/blog/universities-freedom-of-speech/?utm%5C_source=rss&utm%5C_medium=rss&utm%5C_campaign=universities-freedom-of-speech

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      Universities, freedom of speech, and freedom and responsibility in science

      https://council.science/blog/universities-freedom-of-speech/?utm%5C_source=rss&utm%5C_medium=rss&utm%5C_campaign=universities-freedom-of-speech

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      I’ll take “things that are going away” for $400

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        Universities, freedom of speech, and freedom and responsibility in science

        https://council.science/blog/universities-freedom-of-speech/?utm%5C_source=rss&utm%5C_medium=rss&utm%5C_campaign=universities-freedom-of-speech

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        paragone@mander.xyz
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        Partway through the article…

        He’s making a couple of fundamental mistakes…

        Social-process has phases exactly the same as fluid-dynamics, or other physics-processes, does.

        the phase in-which casual rules about free-speech are good-enough, is finished, this fall, globally: the ever-escalating polarization enforced by the anti-considered-reasoning lobbies

        ( read Kahneman’s “Thinking, Fast and Slow” book, to really understand the difference between the imprint->reaction brain-system ( lower forebrain, from the stuff in “Top Brain / Bottom Brain” ), which Kahneman & Tversky called … uninformatively … “System 1”, & the considered-reasoning brain-system ( upper forebrain, from that same book & the research which identified that programming uses the upper-forebrain significantly in ways that normal-speech/language definitely does not )

        … will finally have extinguished-from-our-world such capacity.

        Both the Leninists & the Republicans eradicate considered-reasoning from education, in order to enforce imprint->reaction’s rule, instead

        ( imprint->reaction, aka axiom-based-knowing, is a defining-feature of formal-systems, ideologies, prejudices, & “religions”.

        All reject evidence’s validity-to-falsify them.

        All hold that their-axioms are inherently more valid than contradictory universe-speech/evidence.

        All are automatic/reactive.

        Hofstadter’s “Godel Escher Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid” demonstrated this, in the interactions between the hare & the tortoise. )

        So, he’s ignoring that in different social-process-phases, different-rules-for-free-speech are required.

        shrug


        Here’s a point that he rejects:

        Can a person’s opinion disqualify them from a category of authority?

        I say absolutely yes it can:

        Anybody who rejects the region’s aviation-authority’s right to regulate aviation, MUST be prohibited from piloting aircraft: they are too great a threat to others’ lives.

        Anybody who rejects a country’s legitimacy, & holds that other-country has the right to subjugate it ( like a citizen in Ukraine holding that Russia has the right to demolish/butcher/obliterate Ukraine ) is functionally a pathogen in the “organism” of Ukraine, & ought not be permitted to exercise the authority to vote.

        Responsibility-based-authority has to be the basis, in all domains.

        Not authority-is-a-right, but responsible-authority is a privilege-or-right.

        Expressing meaning has to be in the same regime: enforcing disinformation’s displacing of truth isn’t a free-speech-right, it is active-treason against considered-reasoning’s ABILITY to govern our countries.

        Therefore even the opinion that “tylenol is the cause of autism” has to be subject to fact-checking’s overruling, because disinformation acts through social-pressure/forces, and can derail countries thereby, and that isn’t anyone’s right to be doing.

        So, … responsibility-based-rights is what I hold humankind has to stand on, but … obviously that is a very-minority view.


        Whatever… consequences’ll happen, either way: some ways are whole-species-fatal, though.

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