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Battlefield 6's beta has only been running for a day, but it's already suffering from a FPS curse with cheaters breaking out the wallhacks

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      givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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      I keep hoping they won’t fuck this up… But it’s EA.

      With how ridiculous COD is, all they have to do is keep it relatively on theme and they’ll get a shit ton of people.

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        Meanwhile I’m buying indie games for way less and they work like a charm. Fuck EA

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          canconda@lemmy.ca
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          IMO they should make a reward system for reporting cheaters. Specifically you earn credit towards your own dedicated server or becoming a moderator on an official one.

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            Meanwhile I’m buying indie games for way less and they work like a charm. Fuck EA

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            FiveMacs
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            I refuse to even humor those companies anymore. overpriced garbage. Indi devs all day. I have more fun, I actually finish games and I acquire more because they cost so much less

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              IMO they should make a reward system for reporting cheaters. Specifically you earn credit towards your own dedicated server or becoming a moderator on an official one.

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              FiveMacs
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              imo you shouldn’t give them money until they stop treating you like garbage. 3 new games where they don’t treat you like crap should be the minimum to even consider them a potential gaming company.

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                yesman@lemmy.world
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                The crazy thing about multiplayer games like this that the players are expected to provide the content and pay for the privilege. I wanna pay $70 to be an NPC in someone else’s game.

                What’s good about these games? your playing other people.

                What’s bad about these games? your playing other people.

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                  I refuse to even humor those companies anymore. overpriced garbage. Indi devs all day. I have more fun, I actually finish games and I acquire more because they cost so much less

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                  GingaNinga
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                  I’ve just given up on multiplayer, its just not fun anymore. I’ve been playing expo 33, blue prince, phantom liberty and lies of P and having a great time. They just don’t make fun multiplayer anymore. If they made something like halo 3 or bad company 2 I’d be back in a heart beat. I think the last multiplayer game I actually got into was rainbow 6 siege and but even that drove me away after year 4-5 or something.

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                    I refuse to even humor those companies anymore. overpriced garbage. Indi devs all day. I have more fun, I actually finish games and I acquire more because they cost so much less

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                    Fingolfinz
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                    And the games just feel so much more like a game. Idk how to explain it, maybe some nostalgia involved, but a game like stardew has captivated me way more than anything any massive company has really been putting out. They’re so obsessed with realism and updated tech that the games always feel soulless in the end

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                    • FingolfinzF Fingolfinz

                      Meanwhile I’m buying indie games for way less and they work like a charm. Fuck EA

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                      Omega (she/her)
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                      Yup, can’t wait for the next BattleBit Remastered update.

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                        imo you shouldn’t give them money until they stop treating you like garbage. 3 new games where they don’t treat you like crap should be the minimum to even consider them a potential gaming company.

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                        canconda@lemmy.ca
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                        I haven’t bought an EA game in years. But a lot of games have problems with cheaters. I think deputizing players who take the time to report cheaters is the best way to combat the problem.

                        Like the real problem is that submitting a ticket doesn’t deal with the cheater fast enough to stop them from ruining the game for people. Live moderators however are an active deterrent as they can get your account blacklisted/banned much faster.

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                        • G givesomefucks@lemmy.world

                          I keep hoping they won’t fuck this up… But it’s EA.

                          With how ridiculous COD is, all they have to do is keep it relatively on theme and they’ll get a shit ton of people.

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                          True. …but it’s EA we’re talking about.

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                            IMO they should make a reward system for reporting cheaters. Specifically you earn credit towards your own dedicated server or becoming a moderator on an official one.

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                            sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                            All this does is literally reward everyone who spams cheating reports against the entire server.

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                              All this does is literally reward everyone who spams cheating reports against the entire server.

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                              canconda@lemmy.ca
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                              The reward system would utilize the currently existing ticket system where reports are verified.

                              The problem you described is easily mitigated by only rewarding users whose reports result in disciplinary action above a %. So if you want a server you’re incentivized to only report actual cheaters.

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                                The reward system would utilize the currently existing ticket system where reports are verified.

                                The problem you described is easily mitigated by only rewarding users whose reports result in disciplinary action above a %. So if you want a server you’re incentivized to only report actual cheaters.

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                                sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                Yep.

                                You’re adding to it.

                                In a silly way.

                                All doing this does is incentivize false reports.

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                                  Sounds likely it won’t have community servers either. Seems like they will have them!

                                  Private servers do have some downsides (power tripping admins mostly), but it’s also great joining a community and playing with the same group of people regularly, on a server that’s managed by a person who can remove problematic players.

                                  I feel like modern AAA games have no sense of community anymore, you just hit play and sit in a queue, play with completely random people, and repeat. Sitting on Discord with a group and queuing together (if you’re lucky enough to play a game that allows it) just doesn’t feel the same.

                                  The matchmaking/queue thing also leads to games being designed for shorter matches with more focus on your score/performance in the match. Those several-hour long BF3 games were always the best because it was just people there to have fun.

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                                    Yep.

                                    You’re adding to it.

                                    In a silly way.

                                    All doing this does is incentivize false reports.

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                                    canconda@lemmy.ca
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                                    edited my comment to explain it in further detail for you bud.

                                    The problem you described is easily mitigated by only rewarding users whose reports result in disciplinary action above a %. So if you want a server you’re incentivized to only report actual cheaters.

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                                    • mangopenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zoneM mangopenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                      Sounds likely it won’t have community servers either. Seems like they will have them!

                                      Private servers do have some downsides (power tripping admins mostly), but it’s also great joining a community and playing with the same group of people regularly, on a server that’s managed by a person who can remove problematic players.

                                      I feel like modern AAA games have no sense of community anymore, you just hit play and sit in a queue, play with completely random people, and repeat. Sitting on Discord with a group and queuing together (if you’re lucky enough to play a game that allows it) just doesn’t feel the same.

                                      The matchmaking/queue thing also leads to games being designed for shorter matches with more focus on your score/performance in the match. Those several-hour long BF3 games were always the best because it was just people there to have fun.

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                                      grimy@lemmy.world
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                                      They confirmed community servers. There is even a level editor built with Godot.

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                                      • G grimy@lemmy.world

                                        They confirmed community servers. There is even a level editor built with Godot.

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                                        mangopenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                        Oh well that’s awesome!

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                                          edited my comment to explain it in further detail for you bud.

                                          The problem you described is easily mitigated by only rewarding users whose reports result in disciplinary action above a %. So if you want a server you’re incentivized to only report actual cheaters.

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                                          sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                          Oh, well yes, if you do that, then that would make more sense, and I wouldn’t have said what I said.

                                          But uh, what has actually happened here is that you said a silly thing, I pointed out it was silly, you realized why it was silly, figured out how to make it not silly, and now you have retroactively changed what you said, and are acting indignantly, as if that is what you had said from the beginning.

                                          Was I just supposed to invent those words and put them in your mouth for you, from the get go?

                                          Read your mind?

                                          This is like saying “kill all people”, someone obecting to that, and then you appending “- humanely, who desire to be medically euthanized due to terrible injury or disease”… and then you getting mad, and acting like that is what you said the whole time.

                                          Incredible.

                                          This is reddit mod tier logic of retroactively editing your comment to entirely change or reframe what you said, but you just admit this, think this is normal and fine, and that actually I am the asshole.

                                          Again, incredible.

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