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  • tattorack@lemmy.worldT tattorack@lemmy.world

    Centaurs (and other *taur types. Looking at you, furries) are overall an incredibly dumb design.

    The more you think about them, the more they just don’t work. I went from meh, to dislike, to hate for centaurs over the years.

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    underpantsweevil@lemmy.world
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    The more you think about them, the more they just don’t work.

    Wait till you get into the math of <insert any mythological creature with wings>.

    A Pegasus, if it were to fly in the same way as a bird, would require extremely large wings relative to its body size, likely much larger than commonly depicted. Calculations suggest a wingspan of at least 30 meters (about 100 feet) for a horse-sized creature. This is due to the constraints of the square-cube law and the need for sufficient lift to support the horse’s weight.

    A study of dragons from movies and video games suggests they would need to fly much faster or have wings 45 times larger to stay aloft.

    Don’t even get me started on Sphinxes and Manticores.

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    • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU underpantsweevil@lemmy.world

      The more you think about them, the more they just don’t work.

      Wait till you get into the math of <insert any mythological creature with wings>.

      A Pegasus, if it were to fly in the same way as a bird, would require extremely large wings relative to its body size, likely much larger than commonly depicted. Calculations suggest a wingspan of at least 30 meters (about 100 feet) for a horse-sized creature. This is due to the constraints of the square-cube law and the need for sufficient lift to support the horse’s weight.

      A study of dragons from movies and video games suggests they would need to fly much faster or have wings 45 times larger to stay aloft.

      Don’t even get me started on Sphinxes and Manticores.

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      kiagam@lemmy.world
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      That is why I like unicorns. when they fly, nobody starts calculating. Everybody just accepts the magic

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      • B bss03@infosec.pub

        Credit? You can have my upvote if this isn’t “genAI”.

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        sorryquick@lemmy.ca
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        This is just a random picture he made for the meme. He’s not trying to sell it and it doesn’t replace an actual artist. IMO that’s an accetable use of AI.

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        • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU underpantsweevil@lemmy.world

          The more you think about them, the more they just don’t work.

          Wait till you get into the math of <insert any mythological creature with wings>.

          A Pegasus, if it were to fly in the same way as a bird, would require extremely large wings relative to its body size, likely much larger than commonly depicted. Calculations suggest a wingspan of at least 30 meters (about 100 feet) for a horse-sized creature. This is due to the constraints of the square-cube law and the need for sufficient lift to support the horse’s weight.

          A study of dragons from movies and video games suggests they would need to fly much faster or have wings 45 times larger to stay aloft.

          Don’t even get me started on Sphinxes and Manticores.

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          tattorack@lemmy.world
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          That’s why I like my winged mythical creatures with really big wings.

          Sphinxes are bad, but still not as bad as centaurs, as Sphinxes don’t have an entire additional body attached to their body.

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          • K kiagam@lemmy.world

            That is why I like unicorns. when they fly, nobody starts calculating. Everybody just accepts the magic

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            tattorack@lemmy.world
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            #106

            I’m a sci-fi guy. I can accept that whatever force is causing the unicorn to fly is one that I haven’t measured or studied yet.

            Any sufficiently understood magic is indistinguishable from science.

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            • S sorryquick@lemmy.ca

              This is just a random picture he made for the meme. He’s not trying to sell it and it doesn’t replace an actual artist. IMO that’s an accetable use of AI.

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              bss03@infosec.pub
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              There’s no acceptable use for something that can only exist by violating the copyright terms for millions of artists.

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                AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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                Naruto running, but with his hands holding onto his own reins

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                • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU underpantsweevil@lemmy.world

                  The more you think about them, the more they just don’t work.

                  Wait till you get into the math of <insert any mythological creature with wings>.

                  A Pegasus, if it were to fly in the same way as a bird, would require extremely large wings relative to its body size, likely much larger than commonly depicted. Calculations suggest a wingspan of at least 30 meters (about 100 feet) for a horse-sized creature. This is due to the constraints of the square-cube law and the need for sufficient lift to support the horse’s weight.

                  A study of dragons from movies and video games suggests they would need to fly much faster or have wings 45 times larger to stay aloft.

                  Don’t even get me started on Sphinxes and Manticores.

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                  mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works
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                  #109

                  For the pegasus, are they factoring in possibilities like having hollow bones like birds do to reduce weight? Granted, that would severely hamper their abilities to be a horse, but maybe they’re not supposed to be beasts of burden?

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                    merc@sh.itjust.works
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                    #110

                    This is just another reminder how weird a centaur is as a concept. Vertebrates don’t have more than 4 limbs. Land vertebrates mostly have 4 legs, but the structure of their forelegs is very similar to human arms and wrists. Bats have wings, but their wings are basically arms with a membrane of skin between the bones. Even a Naga (human / snake hybrid) makes more sense than a centaur.

                    Also, think how unbalanced a centaur would be. Instead of a trunk that merely has to support a neck and a head, a centaur has to support a full half-human right at the front of its body. That would shift the centre of mass way forward, so most of the weight would be on the middle limbs. That would affect its ability to gallop, because in a gallop most of the running power of a horse comes from the back legs. If the back legs are almost completely unloaded because all the weight is at the front, the back legs wouldn’t be able to push with much force.

                    A more realistic centaur would have the trunk weight shifted backwards, so instead of having a human torso replacing its neck and head, it would be like a rider on a horse but without the rider’s legs or the horse’s head.

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                    • A agent641@lemmy.world

                      I would be holding on to my dick and balls so they don’t smack me in the asshole every gallop.

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                      valmond@lemmy.world
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                      I’d hold my hands like when you stick your hand out of the car window and surfs on the air.

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                        rizzrustbolt@lemmy.world
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                        Steam Deck.

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                        • merc@sh.itjust.worksM merc@sh.itjust.works

                          This is just another reminder how weird a centaur is as a concept. Vertebrates don’t have more than 4 limbs. Land vertebrates mostly have 4 legs, but the structure of their forelegs is very similar to human arms and wrists. Bats have wings, but their wings are basically arms with a membrane of skin between the bones. Even a Naga (human / snake hybrid) makes more sense than a centaur.

                          Also, think how unbalanced a centaur would be. Instead of a trunk that merely has to support a neck and a head, a centaur has to support a full half-human right at the front of its body. That would shift the centre of mass way forward, so most of the weight would be on the middle limbs. That would affect its ability to gallop, because in a gallop most of the running power of a horse comes from the back legs. If the back legs are almost completely unloaded because all the weight is at the front, the back legs wouldn’t be able to push with much force.

                          A more realistic centaur would have the trunk weight shifted backwards, so instead of having a human torso replacing its neck and head, it would be like a rider on a horse but without the rider’s legs or the horse’s head.

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                          ileftreddit@lemmy.world
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                          A human torso’s weight would be almost inconsequential compared to a whole ass horse body, not to mention the human part has abs and shit and will be coordinating with the horse part, cause it’s all one creature. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a ridiculous creature, I just think it could theoretically work

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                          • V valmond@lemmy.world

                            I’d hold my hands like when you stick your hand out of the car window and surfs on the air.

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                            xorollo@leminal.space
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                            Like the centaurs in fantasia

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                            • Lime Buzz (fae/she)S Lime Buzz (fae/she)

                              Making ‘bad’ art is how you get better. genAI will never get better or create anything good looking or original.

                              Edit: I’d rather see any real people’s ‘bad’ attempts than even 1 genAI slop.

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                              rustyshackleford@literature.cafe
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                              Easier said than done, I suffered a stroke so I can’t feel my dominant right arm. Ever since I do most work left handed.

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                              • rustyshackleford@literature.cafeR rustyshackleford@literature.cafe

                                This is AI. My past Photoshop skills were laughable in comparison, lol.

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                                dustydata@lemmy.world
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                                I would’ve rather seen a crude Paint abomination by you than whatever that is. It would at least had some soul.

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                                • R rizzrustbolt@lemmy.world

                                  Steam Deck.

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                                  noodle07@lemmy.world
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                                  Damn that’s cool

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                                  • E Ephera

                                    Hmm, humans swing their arms while running to counteract angular movement. Presumably, the horse undercarriage wouldn’t have this problem, because there’s more legs in an offset motion and just some distance between the pairs of legs to hold the body straight.

                                    But horses nod their heads during gallop, so maybe the centaurs would do a little chug-chug motion with their arms instead.

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                                    iveseenthat@reddthat.com
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                                    This is a great anwser, actually

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                                    • merc@sh.itjust.worksM merc@sh.itjust.works

                                      This is just another reminder how weird a centaur is as a concept. Vertebrates don’t have more than 4 limbs. Land vertebrates mostly have 4 legs, but the structure of their forelegs is very similar to human arms and wrists. Bats have wings, but their wings are basically arms with a membrane of skin between the bones. Even a Naga (human / snake hybrid) makes more sense than a centaur.

                                      Also, think how unbalanced a centaur would be. Instead of a trunk that merely has to support a neck and a head, a centaur has to support a full half-human right at the front of its body. That would shift the centre of mass way forward, so most of the weight would be on the middle limbs. That would affect its ability to gallop, because in a gallop most of the running power of a horse comes from the back legs. If the back legs are almost completely unloaded because all the weight is at the front, the back legs wouldn’t be able to push with much force.

                                      A more realistic centaur would have the trunk weight shifted backwards, so instead of having a human torso replacing its neck and head, it would be like a rider on a horse but without the rider’s legs or the horse’s head.

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                                      sippycup@feddit.nl
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                                      Fun fact, horse heads/necks weigh about as much as human torsos do. Depending on the horse, and the human.

                                      Modern horses are fuckin huge. It’s not unreasonable to think that a horse body could support a human upper body without much additional musculature.

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                                      • R redditrefugee69@lemmynsfw.com

                                        They swing them in sync with the opposing leg.

                                        Centaurs have four.

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                                        squaresinger@lemmy.world
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                                        So they swing twice as fast according to project managers.

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                                        • B bss03@infosec.pub

                                          There’s no acceptable use for something that can only exist by violating the copyright terms for millions of artists.

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                                          sorryquick@lemmy.ca
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                                          The company violated those terms, not OP.

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