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  • P pilferjinx

    Labels are fine but increasing the price sounds ridiculous. I don’t drink alcohol but I cook with it all the time. I don’t need an increase in my grocery bill.

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    Krudler
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    Your rationale is I don’t want to pay more because I don’t want to.

    I understand, nobody does want to pay more for things, but the way taxation is structured means every bottle has a net cost to society. That’s not a justifiable or defensible position.

    And your claim that you just cook with it is highly specious.

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      It'sbetterwithbutter
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      We’ve had warning labels on cigarettes’ for ages, as a recovering alcoholic, I totally agree there should be warning labels.

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      • W wirebeads@lemmy.ca

        As someone who casually drinks I have zero issues either putting labels on alcohol.

        I also like many have switched from alcohol based drinks to non alcoholic based drinks. I like beer, but I don’t need to be drunk. I don’t need it to numb my mind or my faculties.

        I’m all for this to make it aware to everyone.

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        cheese_greater@lemmy.world
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        What do you think about kombucha, i find it kinda itches the right spot

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          rumba@lemmy.zip
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          Can’t hurt

          I think there are 0 people out there who would be surprised at that label.

          Slightly inconvenient for booze manufacturers, like we care…

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          • K Krudler

            Hard agree. The amount of alcohol that humans can safely consume is approaching zero.

            And … The Canada Alcohol Deficit studies indicate that our current alcohol deficit is over 6 billion dollars. Meaning that after we take in taxation on alcohol, and we deal with the social, health, and criminal costs, we’re down 6B (e: the linked article below shows just under 4Bn but that’s out of date)

            Not only do we need warning labels, but we need to literally double the price of alcohol imo

            https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/reports-publications/health-promotion-chronic-disease-prevention-canada-research-policy-practice/vol-40-no-5-6-2020/alcohol-deficit-canadian-government-revenue-societal-costs.html

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            greyeyedghost@lemmy.ca
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            Hard agree. The amount of alcohol that humans can safely consume is approaching zero.

            The reality hasn’t changed, only our understanding of it.

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              not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              Just go all the way and do plain packaging and ban advertising for alcohol. Addictive poison and marketing mix about as well as a tire fire and gasoline.

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                finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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                I like the energy, but I’m skeptical about the implementation. When the USA tried a prohibition it failed miserably, when they put surgeon general’s warnings on boxes it hardly made a difference.

                But I like the energy, power to him.

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                • R rumba@lemmy.zip

                  Can’t hurt

                  I think there are 0 people out there who would be surprised at that label.

                  Slightly inconvenient for booze manufacturers, like we care…

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                  ohshitson@lemmy.zip
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                  Yeah, it’s like the pictures on cigarette packages. We all know it’s terrible for us, but if you’re addicted it probably won’t make a difference.

                  Still I’m all for it, it could help someone on the way to an addiction to think over their consumption.

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                    andre613@lemmy.ca
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                    Wait, this guy is still around? He would know about alcohol, he’s gotten so many DUIs, assault charges and drug possession charges, he could be the poster-child…

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                    • C cheese_greater@lemmy.world

                      What do you think about kombucha, i find it kinda itches the right spot

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                      elfin8er@lemmy.world
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                      I’ve been trying this out myself, and I’d agree!

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                        freshparsnip@lemmy.ca
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                        I’ve always found it weird alcohol doesn’t have warning labels. I guess the risks are common knowledge but still. When I buy weed online, they send info about the risks with it

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                        • E elfin8er@lemmy.world

                          I’ve been trying this out myself, and I’d agree!

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                          cheese_greater@lemmy.world
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                          Watch the sugar in them, try to get one with no more than 10g sugar, the dryer the better but i dont care for the ones that have xylitol and stevia etc

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                          • K Krudler

                            Your rationale is I don’t want to pay more because I don’t want to.

                            I understand, nobody does want to pay more for things, but the way taxation is structured means every bottle has a net cost to society. That’s not a justifiable or defensible position.

                            And your claim that you just cook with it is highly specious.

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                            pilferjinx
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                            The assumptions you’re making are out of this world. Your reaching at things past criticalilty.

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                            • K Krudler

                              Hard agree. The amount of alcohol that humans can safely consume is approaching zero.

                              And … The Canada Alcohol Deficit studies indicate that our current alcohol deficit is over 6 billion dollars. Meaning that after we take in taxation on alcohol, and we deal with the social, health, and criminal costs, we’re down 6B (e: the linked article below shows just under 4Bn but that’s out of date)

                              Not only do we need warning labels, but we need to literally double the price of alcohol imo

                              https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/reports-publications/health-promotion-chronic-disease-prevention-canada-research-policy-practice/vol-40-no-5-6-2020/alcohol-deficit-canadian-government-revenue-societal-costs.html

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                              i_love_fft@jlai.lu
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                              Education is the important part. I’m astounded that some people don’t know how bad alcohol is…

                              My grandpa was dry and an uncle was alcoholic for a long time. My upbringing was never shy from talking about the negative effects of alcohol.

                              However, our society is built such that alcohol is part of the machine to keep the anxiety at bay. Forcing a reduction of alcohol consumption by itself is a bad idea, as it would make all the anxiety problems worst. Make sure people know how dangerous it is, but allow people to find other tools to help where alcohol is used.

                              How to you break the social barrier of low confidence and shyness in young adults? How to you recharge and reset the overworked office brain? How to you release muscle tension after a long day of sports?

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                              • P pilferjinx

                                The assumptions you’re making are out of this world. Your reaching at things past criticalilty.

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                                Krudler
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                                What the hell are you talking about, can you not connect the dots of a basic conversation?

                                Alcohol is a net detraction from our society… You don’t want it to go up in price because you enjoy the product and want it to be cheap. And you really don’t care if your ability to get it cheap means that it harms our society.

                                I feel like I’m talking to an infant here

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                                • F finitebanjo@lemmy.world

                                  I like the energy, but I’m skeptical about the implementation. When the USA tried a prohibition it failed miserably, when they put surgeon general’s warnings on boxes it hardly made a difference.

                                  But I like the energy, power to him.

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                                  piccolo@sh.itjust.works
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                                  when they put surgeon general’s warnings on boxes it hardly made a difference.

                                  It made a huge difference. But its also because before that, companies were promoting tobacco was “safe” and even “beneficial”. So an explicit warning would been a suprised to most people of that era. Did it stopped addicts? No… but the next generation was more weary before beoming addicted. But yeah, i dont think a warming today would have nearly the same effect as that information is far more widely available

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                                  • K Krudler

                                    What the hell are you talking about, can you not connect the dots of a basic conversation?

                                    Alcohol is a net detraction from our society… You don’t want it to go up in price because you enjoy the product and want it to be cheap. And you really don’t care if your ability to get it cheap means that it harms our society.

                                    I feel like I’m talking to an infant here

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                                    pilferjinx
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                                    I don’t think you’ve considered all of the factors. The thing with alcohol is that it’s very cheap and very easy to produce in your own home. What you’re suggesting risks the development of black market bootlegging and all of the problems associated with it.

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                                    • A andre613@lemmy.ca

                                      Wait, this guy is still around? He would know about alcohol, he’s gotten so many DUIs, assault charges and drug possession charges, he could be the poster-child…

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                                      dragontypewyvern@midwest.social
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                                      #34

                                      Maybe a warning label would have helped him not get addicted.

                                      I also don’t think most people know it’s a major carcinogen. They think of it in terms of alcohol poisoning and nothing else.

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                                      • R rumba@lemmy.zip

                                        Can’t hurt

                                        I think there are 0 people out there who would be surprised at that label.

                                        Slightly inconvenient for booze manufacturers, like we care…

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                                        dxdydz@slrpnk.net
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                                        I dunno. I was surprised to learn the extent to which it’s carcinogenic. And the fact that there are no known benefits.

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                                          AnimalsDream
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                                          Alcohol advertising should also be banned in the same way tobacco ads are.

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