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‘Alcohol is a poison’ that needs honest warning labels: Senator Brazeau

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  • C cheese_greater@lemmy.world

    What do you think about kombucha, i find it kinda itches the right spot

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    elfin8er@lemmy.world
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    I’ve been trying this out myself, and I’d agree!

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      freshparsnip@lemmy.ca
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      I’ve always found it weird alcohol doesn’t have warning labels. I guess the risks are common knowledge but still. When I buy weed online, they send info about the risks with it

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      • E elfin8er@lemmy.world

        I’ve been trying this out myself, and I’d agree!

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        cheese_greater@lemmy.world
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        Watch the sugar in them, try to get one with no more than 10g sugar, the dryer the better but i dont care for the ones that have xylitol and stevia etc

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        • K Krudler

          Your rationale is I don’t want to pay more because I don’t want to.

          I understand, nobody does want to pay more for things, but the way taxation is structured means every bottle has a net cost to society. That’s not a justifiable or defensible position.

          And your claim that you just cook with it is highly specious.

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          pilferjinx
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          The assumptions you’re making are out of this world. Your reaching at things past criticalilty.

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          • K Krudler

            Hard agree. The amount of alcohol that humans can safely consume is approaching zero.

            And … The Canada Alcohol Deficit studies indicate that our current alcohol deficit is over 6 billion dollars. Meaning that after we take in taxation on alcohol, and we deal with the social, health, and criminal costs, we’re down 6B (e: the linked article below shows just under 4Bn but that’s out of date)

            Not only do we need warning labels, but we need to literally double the price of alcohol imo

            https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/reports-publications/health-promotion-chronic-disease-prevention-canada-research-policy-practice/vol-40-no-5-6-2020/alcohol-deficit-canadian-government-revenue-societal-costs.html

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            i_love_fft@jlai.lu
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            Education is the important part. I’m astounded that some people don’t know how bad alcohol is…

            My grandpa was dry and an uncle was alcoholic for a long time. My upbringing was never shy from talking about the negative effects of alcohol.

            However, our society is built such that alcohol is part of the machine to keep the anxiety at bay. Forcing a reduction of alcohol consumption by itself is a bad idea, as it would make all the anxiety problems worst. Make sure people know how dangerous it is, but allow people to find other tools to help where alcohol is used.

            How to you break the social barrier of low confidence and shyness in young adults? How to you recharge and reset the overworked office brain? How to you release muscle tension after a long day of sports?

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            • P pilferjinx

              The assumptions you’re making are out of this world. Your reaching at things past criticalilty.

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              Krudler
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              What the hell are you talking about, can you not connect the dots of a basic conversation?

              Alcohol is a net detraction from our society… You don’t want it to go up in price because you enjoy the product and want it to be cheap. And you really don’t care if your ability to get it cheap means that it harms our society.

              I feel like I’m talking to an infant here

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              • F finitebanjo@lemmy.world

                I like the energy, but I’m skeptical about the implementation. When the USA tried a prohibition it failed miserably, when they put surgeon general’s warnings on boxes it hardly made a difference.

                But I like the energy, power to him.

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                piccolo@sh.itjust.works
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                when they put surgeon general’s warnings on boxes it hardly made a difference.

                It made a huge difference. But its also because before that, companies were promoting tobacco was “safe” and even “beneficial”. So an explicit warning would been a suprised to most people of that era. Did it stopped addicts? No… but the next generation was more weary before beoming addicted. But yeah, i dont think a warming today would have nearly the same effect as that information is far more widely available

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                • K Krudler

                  What the hell are you talking about, can you not connect the dots of a basic conversation?

                  Alcohol is a net detraction from our society… You don’t want it to go up in price because you enjoy the product and want it to be cheap. And you really don’t care if your ability to get it cheap means that it harms our society.

                  I feel like I’m talking to an infant here

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                  pilferjinx
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                  I don’t think you’ve considered all of the factors. The thing with alcohol is that it’s very cheap and very easy to produce in your own home. What you’re suggesting risks the development of black market bootlegging and all of the problems associated with it.

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                  • A andre613@lemmy.ca

                    Wait, this guy is still around? He would know about alcohol, he’s gotten so many DUIs, assault charges and drug possession charges, he could be the poster-child…

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                    dragontypewyvern@midwest.social
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                    Maybe a warning label would have helped him not get addicted.

                    I also don’t think most people know it’s a major carcinogen. They think of it in terms of alcohol poisoning and nothing else.

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                    • R rumba@lemmy.zip

                      Can’t hurt

                      I think there are 0 people out there who would be surprised at that label.

                      Slightly inconvenient for booze manufacturers, like we care…

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                      dxdydz@slrpnk.net
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                      I dunno. I was surprised to learn the extent to which it’s carcinogenic. And the fact that there are no known benefits.

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                        AnimalsDream
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                        Alcohol advertising should also be banned in the same way tobacco ads are.

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                          uhmbah@lemmy.ca
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                          Totally agree. Including a ban on advertising. Just like cigarettes.

                          Alcohol contributes to 7 different types of cancer.

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                          Drinking alcohol causes 7 different types of cancer. It doesn’t matter what type of alcohol you drink. Beer, wine and spirits all increase your cancer risk.

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                            Slap a skull and crossbones on the bottle like they do in cartoons (and for cigarettes).

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                            • F fenderstratocaster@lemmy.world

                              Drunk is the only time I truly enjoy life. Life is just dredging on day after day on a work, commute, sleep pattern that makes me hope for a young death

                              When I drink I feel like life is supposed to feel like. I feel like little things can make me happy and I truly enjoy those little things. If it kills me, at least I died enjoying SOMETHING. I know I need to stop, but it so hard when everything else is so awful.

                              That being said, labels would make sense.

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                              savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                              You need to talk to a mental health professional.

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                              • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

                                You need to talk to a mental health professional.

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                                fenderstratocaster@lemmy.world
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                                No shit!?!

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                                • freebooter69@lemmy.caF freebooter69@lemmy.ca

                                  I wish there were more choices of non-alcohol beers, but it’s usually a choice of one shitty brand that tastes like soap or worse. There are good non-alcohol beers, but bars and pubs seem to have no interest in them.

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                                  savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                                  But they sell $16 mocktails. They should be required to stock non alcohol alternatives as a condition of their liquor licence. But bars and pubs are run by idiots. A significant and growing population of people are Muslim and they are just ignoring their $.

                                  A lot of that is because bars and pubs know intoxication leads to unbridled spending.

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                                  • D dermanus@lemmy.ca

                                    And they often cost as much as a regular beer, that’s one thing that puts me off them.

                                    Same with non alcohol cocktails. They’re still $15 each.

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                                    savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                                    It’s a pure ripoff. I worked in brewing, it costs less to make beer than to make soda.

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                                      I dunno. I was surprised to learn the extent to which it’s carcinogenic. And the fact that there are no known benefits.

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                                      savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                                      The carcinogenic nature of alcohol is vastly underestimated. At this point, beverage industry is behaving like big tobacco. North America was sold the health benefits of wine in the late 80s and it was always a lie.

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                                      • cygnus@lemmy.caC cygnus@lemmy.ca

                                        Huh I’m surprised smoking has only declined by 25% in the lat 20 years. I’d have guessed at least 50%.

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                                        savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                                        20 years ago was 2005. It declined heavily from the 80s.

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                                        • K knexcar@lemmy.world

                                          Well it feels like more people are smoking weed than they used to.

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                                          savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                                          And the myth than weed is not addictive still rages on the internet.

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