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Steam refunds Destiny 2 players with over 2,000 hours of game time after Bungie’s game becomes unplayable in numerous countries

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  • F frongt@lemmy.zip

    No, nowhere does it say that.

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    serinus@lemmy.world
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    #14

    Except the title (if you don’t read the subtitle).

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    • webhead@lemmy.worldW webhead@lemmy.world

      I’ve played fairly casually since Destiny 2 (I played the first game a lot more and the 2nd launched in a very sorry state). They should have ended the game with The Final Shape. This new stuff is dumb and I couldn’t even give enough fucks to complete the new campaign which I always have done even playing causally. I think that was the final nail in the coffin.

      This game never drew me into the grinding cycle because it wasn’t worth the time. Grind for gear for hours… To what end? It’s just min maxing. First game you could get broken special shit from the raids. Now? I don’t have 4 hours to sit and do that for some random junk that’s not really different from the other junk that usually drops.

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      canadiancorhen@lemmy.ca
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      Where can the plot even go!?!?

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      • M msbeta1421@lemmy.world

        I played D2 religiously for years. Definitely have 2k hours across multiple platforms.

        The crash that game had in 2023 with the Lightfall expansion destroyed it. The prior expansion was peak, and it really felt like they took all that goodwill and shat on it.

        There’s a ton of other stuff at Bungie that went wrong and contributed, but Lightfall is the easiest thing to point to. The missed revenue projections from that release started a chain of bad decisions that really crippled the game.

        Even though Final Shape was amazing and reviewed very well, they couldn’t come back from the 2023 shit storm. Especially when new and better games became available to play.

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        canadiancorhen@lemmy.ca
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        What was the problem of Lightfall?

        I played some of the midgame expansions, but found it hard to follow the plot, and so much if the grind turned me off

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        • S serinus@lemmy.world

          Diablo 2 really was a great game.

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          jarix@lemmy.world
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          I think we need a heretic 2. Seems long overdue

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          • S serinus@lemmy.world

            Except the title (if you don’t read the subtitle).

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            hatorade@lemmy.world
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            Where does it say just the players with 2K hours?

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            • H hatorade@lemmy.world

              Where does it say just the players with 2K hours?

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              CrolishGrandma
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              Where in the title does it say players below 2k will get a refund? It’s misinterpreted on purpose, sure, but it is what the title says

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              • H CrolishGrandma

                Where in the title does it say players below 2k will get a refund? It’s misinterpreted on purpose, sure, but it is what the title says

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                frongt@lemmy.zip
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                It doesn’t say they will. It doesn’t say they won’t. It reports the facts as known by the writer, that some people are being given refunds, and they confirmed one case with the person having over 2k hours. (From memory, I skimmed the article a few hours ago.)

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                • mintiefreshM mintiefresh

                  Very nice of Steam to provide refunds for that. Not every company would do that.

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                  anarchistartificer@slrpnk.net
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                  I feel like this kind of thing is sort of Steam making a political stance against the publisher. If Steam didn’t give refunds, then I imagine that they wouldn’t get much flack for that — it’d instead be directed at the publisher. However, if this became more commonplace, then it would end up eroding Steam’s reputation. It reminds me of how credit card chargebacks work: you get the refund quite quickly, and then the payment processor/bank chases it up with the merchant (especially if there are lots of chargebacks for that merchant).

                  That is all to say that from the players perspective, it is indeed nice of them to offer refunds. Also, I respect them drawing this line against this kind of bullshit. Corporations aren’t our friends, even when they seem to be working in our favour. However, if a corporation is acting in our favor, against a worse corporation, then I’m here for that, while it exists.

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                  • A anarchistartificer@slrpnk.net

                    I feel like this kind of thing is sort of Steam making a political stance against the publisher. If Steam didn’t give refunds, then I imagine that they wouldn’t get much flack for that — it’d instead be directed at the publisher. However, if this became more commonplace, then it would end up eroding Steam’s reputation. It reminds me of how credit card chargebacks work: you get the refund quite quickly, and then the payment processor/bank chases it up with the merchant (especially if there are lots of chargebacks for that merchant).

                    That is all to say that from the players perspective, it is indeed nice of them to offer refunds. Also, I respect them drawing this line against this kind of bullshit. Corporations aren’t our friends, even when they seem to be working in our favour. However, if a corporation is acting in our favor, against a worse corporation, then I’m here for that, while it exists.

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                    Spice Hoarder
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                    I thought steam was eating the loss here

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                    • H CrolishGrandma

                      Where in the title does it say players below 2k will get a refund? It’s misinterpreted on purpose, sure, but it is what the title says

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                      hatorade@lemmy.world
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                      Where does it say in the title and article that they won’t?

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                        fuzzywombat@lemmy.world
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                        Seems like Bungie is a raging dumpster fire at the moment. CEO responsible for current state of Bungie just bailed when his stock options became vested. The person leading the studio now is the infamous GDC “beware of overdelivery” guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6HqAhabFBA

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                        • C canadiancorhen@lemmy.ca

                          What was the problem of Lightfall?

                          I played some of the midgame expansions, but found it hard to follow the plot, and so much if the grind turned me off

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                          msbeta1421@lemmy.world
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                          Some of the worst writing and storytelling that the series has seen. The new subclass was great, but they forced you to beat the whole campaign before you could use it. The campaign gave more questions than answers.

                          It was just so jarring because Witch Queen and the proceeding seasons were generally well received.

                          Compare that to Final Shape where the Campaign was amazing and you get access to Prismatic almost immediately.

                          I still think D2 would have fell off after Final Shape regardless, but I have friends that just stopped playing after Lightfall and didn’t even come back for Final Shape.

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                          • B boringbisexual@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                            It’s the gambling. Destiny 2 is just a gacha game, but instead of anime women it’s guns.

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                            duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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                            How American.

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                            • A anarchistartificer@slrpnk.net

                              I feel like this kind of thing is sort of Steam making a political stance against the publisher. If Steam didn’t give refunds, then I imagine that they wouldn’t get much flack for that — it’d instead be directed at the publisher. However, if this became more commonplace, then it would end up eroding Steam’s reputation. It reminds me of how credit card chargebacks work: you get the refund quite quickly, and then the payment processor/bank chases it up with the merchant (especially if there are lots of chargebacks for that merchant).

                              That is all to say that from the players perspective, it is indeed nice of them to offer refunds. Also, I respect them drawing this line against this kind of bullshit. Corporations aren’t our friends, even when they seem to be working in our favour. However, if a corporation is acting in our favor, against a worse corporation, then I’m here for that, while it exists.

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                              luciferofastora@feddit.org
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                              However, if a corporation is acting in our favor, against a worse corporation, then I’m here for that, while it exists.

                              The enemy of my enemy might not be my friend, but they’re a welcome ally. Let them fight it out, I know who I’m cheering for in between mouthfuls of popcorn.

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                              • M msbeta1421@lemmy.world

                                Some of the worst writing and storytelling that the series has seen. The new subclass was great, but they forced you to beat the whole campaign before you could use it. The campaign gave more questions than answers.

                                It was just so jarring because Witch Queen and the proceeding seasons were generally well received.

                                Compare that to Final Shape where the Campaign was amazing and you get access to Prismatic almost immediately.

                                I still think D2 would have fell off after Final Shape regardless, but I have friends that just stopped playing after Lightfall and didn’t even come back for Final Shape.

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                                VindictiveJudge
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                                Lightfall sunsetted everything I was using that wasn’t an exotic. Completely destroyed my build.

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                                • S Spice Hoarder

                                  I thought steam was eating the loss here

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                                  appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                  Why would they? Not like they have too few for shoveling it into the steam machine already for their personal gain.

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